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The Case Against Gary Condit
self | 9-8-01 | dogbyte12

Posted on 09/08/2001 4:00:51 PM PDT by dogbyte12

He was having an adulterous affair with Chandra Levy. According to her friend Sven Jones, Chandra was pressuring Condit into leaving his wife Carolyn, and marrying her. Now more mistresses have come forward with the rule Chandra revealed to her aunt. She was not allowed to carry ID with her when she went out on a date with Condit. Condit's wife gets migraine headaches at time that are often triggered by high altitude airline flights, so she tries to avoid flying.

It had been a year since Carolyn Condit flew to Washington. She flies to Washington on April 28th, and stays there until May 4th, the exact time when Gary Condit's mistress dissapears. Congress was in session on May 1st, and Condit's wife was in town. To go outside without a cell phone would mean that Chandra Levy could possibly miss the 5-15 minute chance that day of Condit contacting her. She goes downstairs and buys a paper, if Condit calls her cell phone, she may have to wait another day until she gets another chance for a conversation with him. If everything was fine with Chandra and Gary Condit, there is no reasonable explanation for her to leave her cell phone home unless she was going out with him.

There are some who theorize that the no ID would be due to Chandra going down to the laundry room, or just grabbing change and buying a paper. Well since she read the papers online, skip the papers. If Chandra was going to spend an hour down in the laundry room, her cell phone would have gone with her, so she could talk with Gary or whomever decided to call her. She was also expecting return calls from Sven Jones and from Aunt Linda to find out what her "big news" was going to be. She would take the cell phone with her anywhere except a date with Gary. Aunt Linda and Sven could wait, only IF she was with Gary.

Gary Condit did not attempt to call Chandra Levy during the week she came up missing. The excuse that his wife was in town and couldn't find time to call his mistress is false, because he found a chance every single day that week to call Anne Marie Smith. In August, he reveals to Connie Chung that he may have tried calling her on the "31st of April (sic), but there is no proof of that attempted phone call being made. He also tells Connie Chung that he didn't really attempt to call Chandra because she was on a train. How ludicrous is that? For one, the woman has a cell phone. It even can work on trains. Even if she was out of range when he tried, there should be records of attempts being made. There are not. He did not inform the parents that Chandra was almost certainly going to be on the train. The parents thought it was one of several options, and certainly would not expect Chandra to take a train, without telling her when she left, or when they were supposed to pick her up at the train station. This excuse holds no water at all.

There is some speculation as to if Chandra and Condit had some other method of communication other than her home phone number or regular cell phone. Condit and Chandra's phone activity died out during the week or two before she vanished. Yet, originally Condit was claiming through aides, that he "broke off his friendship" with Chandra on the 29th (the day after his wife arrived in town), and that Chandra made a flurry of calls to him that day and the 30th, which he didn't return. No records of those calls. No record of the call he claims to have made on "the 31st or May 1st or 2nd"

Was there a hint of truth in this? Did Condit get Chandra a special cell phone? i.e. the type you can get at 7-11 for $89 with pre-paid phone cards. Knowing Condit's penchant for using fake names, he could have registered one in a false name, handed it to Chandra, and called her from pay phones. This is intriguing because either Condit was telling the truth earlier, about him dumping her, or there had to be another phone contact method. There aren't a pattern of calls from Condit to Chandra or from Chandra to Condit the last few weeks before she vanished. Yet Anne Marie and Condit were still talking nearly every day. What was going on? Chandra by Condit's own admission was overnighting at his Condo on April 24th, yet there weren't calls the day before, or the day before that between the two according to Chandra's cell phone record So did she just show up, or did she have another phone?

Condit finally releases a timeline on June 28th that is full of either mistakes or outright lies. It insinuates that Condit met with VP Cheney for 3 hours when the meeting lasted under 1/2 hour. You do not mistake those times. You might be confused if the meeting last 50 minutes or an hour, but not 25 minutes and 3 hours. He lied by omission. He said he met with Cheney at 12:30 and returned to the office at 3:30, hinting that he returned as soon as the meeting was over.

Condit also stated that he met with Rebecca Cooper from ABC news from 6:30-7:30PM. He actually met her around 2:30PM the next afternoon, not on the first for about 3 hours. It's funny... one day Condit is making a 25 minute meeting 3 hours, the next time he is shortening a 3 hour meeting to 1 hour and moving it up a day.

Condit on June 28th had his phone bills from May 1st. His office had a record of every meeting scheduled, every visitor who came in to meet with the congressman, every staff meeting, etc. They had full access to all the data needed to prove Gary Condit was in the office. The fact that they state he returned at 3:30PM tends to show that they had no evidence of him being at the office before then. Let's do a little logic here. If Condit met with Cheney til 1PM, went to his office immediately afterwards, and took phone calls, met visitors, staggered through out the period of 1PM to 3:30PM, why wouldn't they tell us? There is no reason to hide the fact that he was actually working. The ONLY reason that the staff, in receipt of all documentary evidence, would tell us that Condit didn't return until 3:30PM, is because he wasn't there.

Condit's timeline also keeps repeating that a staff member picks up Condit, or a staff member drives Carolyn Condit because Condit didn't have access to a car in Washington. This is what he told the police as well. The police find out in July, only through Anne Marie Smith that Condit actually took her out on dates in the red ford that he had a set of keys to, as well as his staff.

We know that the Levy parents arrive late on May 15th to Washington D.C. The next day, they meet with the police and hold a press conference. The local tv networks flash Chandra's picture all over the evening news casts that evening of the 16th. Dianne Feinstein and Barbara Boxer meet with Bob and Sue Levy to help publicize their case, but Condit doesn't. While the Levy parents are still in town on May 17th, Condit does the morning roll call vote, then misses votes for the first time this session. 3 votes between 10 and 3PM are scheduled, and Condit doesn't participate. Anne Marie Smith in the meantime, checks into her hotel in D.C. after flying out there on an airline route. She calls Condit up on his secret phone line, and doesn't get a return call until Midnight from Luray, Va... 80 miles south and about a 2 hour drive from Washington D.C. She claims that he said "he might be in trouble."

Since then, Gary Condit has acted like a suspect. He has hired a criminal lawyer, when if it was just an affair he was covering up, it wouldn't be a legal matter, more a PR problem. He does hire a PR guru as well. Close contacts with Chandra Levy, such as Sven Jones, take police administered polygraphs. Condit refuses. The police leak that they are more than happy to limit the questions to Chandra Levy, and add no questions about Joleen Mckay/the watchbox/ and Anne Marie Smith. No dice. He takes a 4 question polygraph administered by an expert who is under no obligation to tell us if this was the first or the 21st polygraph that Condit took with him. This same expert also "cleared" Ron Carey, who is currently on trial.

There is "no proof" that Gary Condit did it. There is no proof he didn't either. You would think that 4 months later with all this scrutiny, he would have been cleared by now. If not by the police, if not by the media, at least by his lawyer. If Condit can prove his whereabouts during May 1st and 2nd, and can pass a police polygraph which shows he has no clue as to what happened to Chandra Levy, are we to believe that he is paying Abbe Lowell $400-$600 an hour, letting his career go down into tatters, just to do what exactly? The hiding affairs excuse doesn't fly anymore. EVERYBODY KNOWS.

Condit is hurting himself by acting this way. If he could prove his whereabouts and prove his truth through a polygraph, at least prove it to the police, he could make this almost all go away. The fact that he is destroying his career, when every single day there are about 50 lawyers, PR people spelling out to him, as if he didn't know, how to make this go away, and Condit still refuses to stop self-destructing his career tells us there is something there.

It's been a while since anybody has summarized the case in total about why Gary Condit looks guilty, so I thought I would give it a crack. Any feedback, or suggestions would be appreciated, I plan to fine tune this and email it to any folks in the media who feel bored and feel there are no angles left to cover. The media still haven't addressed clearly just the basics of May 1st. I have not seen one person other than Mike Dayton who has verified Condit's whereabouts the afternoon of May 1st after the Cheney meeting. I am incredulous that the media has not tried to get at least 1 person who showed up at Condit's office, an outsider, between 1PM and 3:30PM. In that 150 minute span, some outsider had to go to his office. So what happened when they got there?


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KEYWORDS: annemariesmith; chandra; garycondit; levy; murder
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To: The Truth Will Make You Free
Video equipment used to make incriminating evidence to be later used for blackmailing any mistress or congresscritter who might try to blow the whistle on Condidit.
41 posted on 09/08/2001 8:53:37 PM PDT by terilyn
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To: Sueann
I've always wondered where Carolyn's parents have been through all of this. Even if they live out of state you'd think some enterprising investigative journalist would have tried to find them. Have the media tried to track them down? We have seen and heard from Condit's parents, (especially the Rev.), several times. Did her parent's disown her when she married Condit? Are they still living?
42 posted on 09/08/2001 8:55:49 PM PDT by terilyn
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To: terilyn
I've always wondered where Carolyn's parents have been through all of this

If I remember correctly, Carolyn's father passed away, her mother originally retired to Florida, but actually now lives in the Modesto area to be closer to her. I could be wrong, but this is how I recall it.

43 posted on 09/08/2001 9:00:33 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: dogbyte12
This is my first time posting on Free Republic. Please don't flame me. Don't forget, you can talk through your computer. I have used one of the instant messengers to talk with friends halfway across the country. Did Gary have a computer in his office with internet access? Surely, he did.
44 posted on 09/08/2001 9:25:11 PM PDT by dstarr
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To: dogbyte12
Dogbyte--Very good. I like the analysis of the cell phone and the inconsistency of the excuses for not calling Chandra when he was still speaking with AMS every day. That is very cogent. I had sincerely hoped that Connie would have asked Garee about the May 1 schedule because that is such a critical bit of coverup that blew up. Also, the train excuse was a blast of pathetic stupidity in the Chung interview. You've put together a good description of his guilty scienter. Hope you get good feedback from reporters.
45 posted on 09/08/2001 9:35:15 PM PDT by Pinetop
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To: dogbyte12
In a news report earlier this week I heard that the 2 FBI agent on the levy case were called to capital hill to speak behind closed doors. Right after that Gephardt came out and back peddled on his previous statement concerning Condit. I am thinking the FBI confirmed that there is no hard evidence against Condit. But i heard Condit say with a smile that he had "told the FBI everything and they know". I am thinking he might have given the names of a few Congressmen to FBI. Condit looks as if he is enjoying this.I am going to contact little dickie and let him know that the peasants are not stupid and understand what is going on.
46 posted on 09/08/2001 9:51:18 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: Salvation
yes, i think. only her keys would indicate condit. also not cell phone as stated before. on another thread is info about a post article that says case is dead but Gainer of D.C. police said again that they could not rule out Condit as a suspect. This tells me that cops think its Condit but everytime the get a strong lead along come FBI and shoots it down real fast just like they did with levy handyman
47 posted on 09/08/2001 9:58:45 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: dogbyte12
I think they had to show list of quesions before interview. Condit anticipated everyone just like he had a list. LK and Chung did not press for anything.
48 posted on 09/08/2001 10:09:44 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: terilyn
Speaking of that creepy picture of Carolyn, do you see any resemblance to the earlier, attractive picture of her with good ol Gar and sinister Cadee? Remember that one? It was being shown over and over and over. I think it was the only picture the press had at that moment. No, I don't have my tin foil beret on! I'm just amazed at the difference in appearances of the two pictures. But then, I guess living with, so to speak, and trying to hold on, without thumbs, to her bread and butter would age anyone in an unflattering way.
49 posted on 09/08/2001 10:24:51 PM PDT by EastCoast
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To: Helen
Don't you think Dayton needs an alibi as well as Condit does... That was my first thought when I heard that comment.
50 posted on 09/08/2001 10:57:41 PM PDT by GoreNoMore
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To: GoreNoMore
I think Dayton needs a shake down. He has to know something even if he is just lieing for the boss. Its my guess that he knows a lot. What does he need a lawyer for? And what was that mess Condit was spewing about his civil liberties being violated? What has that got to do with answering questions about a missing girlfriend unless you are worried about incrimination. Everyone should keep pounding him to take police lie detector test and speak to Levy investigators
51 posted on 09/08/2001 11:06:38 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: dogbyte12
Nonetheless, Connie Chung did MUCH better than most of us anticipated--admit it! If Condit eventually comes to justice, her interview will be seen as an essential part of the process that headed him that way. Her harping on the sex question(and that was also a complaint of Condit's, BTW,) was out of frustration at not being allowed by him to get a foundation for the questions that were to follow. He wouldn't even give her that much, and I was surprised she didn't finally say "What the hell are we here for if you won't even let me establish THAT much?" Any lawyer in court \ would've had to proceed that same way, otherwise the entire relationship would've been shrouded with ambiguity, which is the essence of "reasonable doubt". If I were doing the interview I would've started by saying "Congressman, I'm not going to ask you if you murdered Chandra Levy, or had anything to do with her disappearance. I believe you did and want to know how you thought you could get away with it?" THAT would've rocked him.
52 posted on 09/08/2001 11:55:17 PM PDT by willyboyishere
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To: Nitro
Who's watch was it again?
53 posted on 09/09/2001 12:15:57 AM PDT by Republicus2001
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To: dogbyte12
I'm no conservative, and am often bemused by some of the conspiracy or edgy posts here, nor am I interested in a political issue, but this is a great post! Good psych Dogbyte! Hope some uniformed guys are listening.
54 posted on 09/09/2001 12:53:56 AM PDT by thelmadawgus
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To: EastCoast
I had to look carefully at the recent picture of Carolyn vs the older one with her, Gary & Cadee. The only resemblance was the hair. Other than that, she looks like she's lost about 30 pounds and aged about 30 years.
55 posted on 09/09/2001 7:25:48 AM PDT by terilyn
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To: dalebert
I think they had to show list of quesions before interview. Condit anticipated everyone just like he had a list. LK and Chung did not press for anything.

Actually, the morning's Washington Post confirms it. Condit's first interview was without Lowell, and it has been reported to have lasted anywhere between 15-45 minutes. After that meeting, Lowell insisted on time and question limits during the subsequent interviews. It will be interesting to see what areas Lowell demanded the police not to get in to during the interviews.

One thing that is really weirding me out, is that the first footage we see of Condit back in congress is him hanging out with Howard Berman, Joyce Chiang's former boss. Berman, as we know, is the only congress critter who donated his own money to Condit's 2000 re-election campaign. How spooky is that, that they are still best buds and together in the halls?

56 posted on 09/09/2001 7:34:54 AM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: dogbyte12
I picked up some bits & pieces from a radio interview with Vince Flammini second hand. If anybody heard it, feel free to correct me here.

Flammini said that Mike Dayton was a troubled youth. Condit basically "took him in" and raised him like a son., (The speculation FWIW was, "Could Dayton be Condit's illigitimate son by a mistress from way back?" He is two years younger than Chad and Dayton is so grateful to Condit that he would do anything for him. He doesn't think Dayton is really corrupt or privy to as much info as we might think. His take was that Dayton speaks out on Gary's behalf mostly because of blind loyalty. Mike Lynch, on the other hand, according to Flammini is deep into Gary's personal life as well as his political one. He has been the one who has known about all the mistresses and been directly involved with the cover ups, and Flammini is convinced that if anybody knows anything about Chandra and Condit's involvement it would be Lynch, even though he's in CA & Dayton is in DC.

He also said that the kids, Chad & Cadee, absolutely knew that their father was a serial adulterer. He said that the three of them would go to a night club and when he, (Gary), managed to get a pretty girl to dance with him, Cadee would give him a smile and a "thumbs-up" sign from the table.

Flammini said that he used to occasionally do odd jobs around the house and Carolyn is deeply in love with Gary and would never say or do anything against him regardless of what he does. This is one sick family.

57 posted on 09/09/2001 7:36:08 AM PDT by terilyn
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To: Sueann
Carolyn looks too emaciated and frail to do physical harm to another person let alone a young woman of 24 who is physically fit. I still think either Gary killed her and called in the clean up crew...or had her 'taken care of'. Carolyn shows all the signs of being emotionally abused. That's my opinion...for what it's worth. 8o)
58 posted on 09/09/2001 7:49:42 AM PDT by homeschool mama
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To: dogbyte12
Good work! Here's food for thought. At yesterday's Modesto condidit freep I spoke w/Don Vance (the Levy's friend and lawyer). He said something that made the hair on my head stand up. You know how Anne Marie Smith says Condit wanted her to do some kinky sex acts and she says she refused because she might get hurt? Well, suppose he got Chandra to do something weird with him and it killed her? Why aren't the police looking into this possibility? They should be interviewing every woman who ever had sex with the creep and find out if he was rough or dangerously kinky with any of them. Have a nice day. For victory & freedom!!!
59 posted on 09/09/2001 7:50:47 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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To: dstarr
Welcome to Free Republic!

I've read that Gary Condit claims *not* to have a computer in his home. Weird, huh? I doubt his claim completely. Probably had it removed and put in a safe place or completely destroyed as to hide evidence ...or something. imho. 8o)

60 posted on 09/09/2001 7:52:43 AM PDT by homeschool mama
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