Posted on 09/08/2001 1:05:48 PM PDT by Paul_E_Ester
By Bradley Perrett
LONDON (Reuters) - The U.S. military may have conducted serious research into anti-gravity based on Nazi studies, a top defense journalist suggests in a new book.
In ``The Hunt for Zero Point,'' journalist Nick Cook says, based on a decade's research, he believes by the 1950s the U.S. was seriously working on anti-gravity ``electrogravitics'' technology, which would lift and propel vehicles without wings or thrust.
``I feel intuitively that some vehicle has been developed, particularly given that there is this wealth of scientific data out there, and the Americans have never been slow to pick up on this sort of science,'' Cook, the aerospace consultant for Jane's Defense Weekly, told Reuters in an interview.
Cook uncovered reports and sightings of a Nazi research device that had been hidden in a remote part of Poland, where it had apparently been supplied with great quantities of electricity -- which an electrogravitic experiment would require.
Curiously, barely a hint of such Nazi research appeared after the war, suggesting that whoever captured it -- probably the United States -- immediately stamped it ``secret,'' he said.
Cook noted that, as a respected expert, he is risking his reputation by writing seriously about a technology associated with UFOs, which most scientists dismiss as science fiction embraced by ``hocus-pocus'' believers.
The United States is known to have a huge budget for so called ``black projects,'' because it spends more on defense than can be accounted for by adding up the value of public programs.
Cook admitted he cannot produce a conclusive case. But that is the nature of black projects, in which even the workers usually have no idea what they are working on.
In 1947, amid the early craze of UFO reports, an air force general reported on the possibility of the United States building disc-shaped objects with extreme rates of climb and maneuverability but without noise or evident propulsion.
In the mid 1950s electrogravitics was the subject of a few press reports, including one that described work by most of the United States' major defense contractors, Cook reported.
And then it all went quiet -- just as stealth technology suddenly disappeared from view in the mid 1970s, only to re-emerge as operational aircraft in the late 1980s.
Academic papers on the subject have mysteriously disappeared from libraries.
There is still no firm evidence that electrogravitics is more than science fiction. Civilian scientists and amateurs have experimented with it, and while some have reported success, no one seems to have reproduced their results to prove that it works.
but in fact, really, nothing is a total barrier or a total insulaor. hydrogen goes through just about anything we use to contain it, eventually leaking out - just measure outside a hydrogen container or special hydrogen hose. cosmic rays go through anything (I think).
But a brick wall only stops some things. Neutrinos will pass through it. Radio waves will pass through it. Neutrons will probably pass through it. Even gamma rays will pass through it with some probability. Muons will pass through it. Neutral K mesons will pass through it.
For the most part, a brick wall will stop significantly massive objects, and little else. (If you don't like the fact that it stops some frequencies of light, then we'll use a clear material.) What else do you want a "gravity insulator" to do?
As measurable gravity appears to emanate from or is present basically in the vicinity of large masses, eg the earth, I would expect a 'gravity insulator' to block/lessen the effects of 'gravity' from what ever it surrounds, not counteract them, as a rocket does.
Sorry, still don't understand. How about explain in in physics for dummies terms. Never heard of an anti-photon.
The old 'curved-spave' analogy is useful.
But what force is making us "slide down" these four-dimensional curves?
I'm waiting ......
Encase the thing in a superconducting box. The Meissner effect will do the job.
You seem to be confusing fields with currents. An electrical insulator doesn't block electric fields, it blocks electric currents. In the case of gravity, you want your "insulator" to block the field, not the current. (The fact that there is no such thing, owing to the nonexistence of gravitational dipoles, is another question.)
... if you *really* need superior magnetic shielding beyond that which mu metal would yield, then your recourse might lie in the use of a super-conducting material ...To quote Richard Barrans Jr., Ph.D.: http://newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/phy99/phy99x89.htm
"Superconductors exclude a magnetic field entirely. That is the physical basis for "magnetic levitation": magnetic fields actually repel superconductors."
You seemed to have no trouble understanding snudge's notion of an "anti gravity particle"; in fact you chided me for not being so clear. Why is the notion of an "anti electromagnetism particle" harder to grasp?
My point is that we don't need to talk about "antiphotons" because they are, by symmetry, the same thing as photons. So, too with "gravity particles" (i.e. gravitons).
But ...
Earth sucks.
Allow me to give it a shot. "Physicist" is saying that there is no particle to "cancel out" a gravity particle's effects, just as there is no particle to cancel out the effect of a photon. The reason there is no such particle is because the particle IS it's own "anti-particle" (self-conjugate, as "Physicist" characterized it).
A crude analogy is that "0" is it's own additive inverse. There is no number you can add to zero to get zero (except for zero itself!) Similarly, a gravity particle is ALSO it's own "anti-particle" (same for photons), which excludes the possibility of some OTHER particle possessing anti-gravity properties from being the gravity particle's "anti-particle."
"Encase the thing in a superconducting box. The Meissner effect will do the job."
I always thought that you either had light or no light (eg darkness). So - it is either/or 0 or 1. Nothing or something.
a solid wall, which blocks light, would to me be an "anti-photon", or a light blocker, or a light insulator.
To me, light is definitely something, therefore not a zero. And therefore, as a '1', 1+1=2 light photons.
You mention 'gravity particles'. Are there such things?
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