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The Rich Pardon Scandal Re-emerges
Newsmax.com ^ | 09/05/2001 | Phil Brennan

Posted on 09/04/2001 11:58:35 PM PDT by wayne_shrugged

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Who wants to bet nothing will come of this? It would expose far too many people in far too many places...
1 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by wayne_shrugged (pvb@pvbr.com)
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To: wayne_shrugged
Who wants to bet nothing will come of this? >>>>

Well if the bet is on nothing then I will bet nothing. Sounds like a safe bet to me. Cause that is exactly what is going to happen here...nothing.

2 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: wayne_shrugged
The ball is now in Attorney General Janet Ashcroft's court.

And there you have it ..........

3 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by Brian Allen
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To: wayne_shrugged

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4 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by RJayneJ
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To: wayne_shrugged
Send the story to O'Reilly on Fox.
5 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by DB
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To: wayne_shrugged
One of greatest weaknesses of man is his belief that if you ignore the problem, it will go away. The truth is the vacuum the problem creates just keeps getting bigger and bigger until it demands attention. Usually something catastrophic must occur before the problem is dealt with. If these Clinton scandals are not dealt with properly now, at some point they will explode in the face of the Bush administration in a very ugly and destructive way.
6 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by Russell Scott
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To: wayne_shrugged
Bump!
7 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by FReethesheeples
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To: wayne_shrugged
Bump!
8 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by FReethesheeples
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To: wayne_shrugged
And don't expect to get any help from the Clinton-worshipping national media

Of course not, but it is the 'leave it be' attitude of many here at FR that concerns me.

9 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by RJCogburn
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To: RJCogburn
it is the 'leave it be' attitude of many here at FR that concerns me.

You are absolutely correct. If nothing else, Freepers MUST see that this story is spread. If the powers that be see from our contacts that we are aware of this situation, they should take some action. Here's some emails for use:

Oreilly@foxnews.com
special@foxnews.com
hannity@foxnews.com
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Congressional aids:
jeff.lungren@mail.house.gov,
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john.cardarelli@mail.house.gov,

DOJ
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FBI New York office:
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Mass submissions to national print media:
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10 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by Elkiejg
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To: wayne_shrugged
Who wants to bet nothing will come of this? It would expose far too many people in far too many places...

I'm afraid you are correct on this. Too bad that John Ashcroft wasn't confirmed as Attorney General.

Oops, I forgot, he was confirmed wasn't he? I wonder if it has occured to anyone that the big push the Democrats put on to stop the Ashcroft appointment was just for show. I think the fix was in and they knew it. A simple deal: don't go hard after our people and we won't go after yours when it's our turn in the drivers seat. Sort of like the grand tradition they have in Mexico where each President retires as a (surprise, surprise) billionaire and the successor just looks the other way while he works on his part time job earning his own billion or two.

We are becoming a third world country.

11 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: wayne_shrugged
I will bet that this will be pursued. Janet Reno has declared war on the Bush administration - why not go after the Clinton gang all the way now? They did not go gently into the night - they are disturbing the peace forever until they have to pay the band.....
12 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: wayne_shrugged
"The ball is now in Attorney General John Ashcroft's court. I know that he is following President Bush's lead in trying to let bygones be bygones,"

See? They have each other for cover. Who cares what we think?

13 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by rdavis84
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To: ValerieUSA
I certainly hope you are right that 'this will be pursured'.
'Friends of Bill' led by McAuliffe are bashing Bush on an almost daily basis.
Everyone fom Podesta to Sperling are on TV and in the newspapers, all the time.

I am so enraged and sick to my stomach about these 'crooks', that I could spit nails!

14 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by mickie
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To: rdavis84
The clintons just declared war on the Bush Family with Reno throwing her hat in the ring in FL! Do you seriously think that let bygones be bygones which was ony a public perception anyways will continue. You can get money that since Ashcroft now has some of his own people which were confirmed not that long ago, things will change.

For six months he operated without the Senate approving his people and was surrounded by clintonites. Would you let them have access to anything? I certainly would not! This Administration operates under the radar and not on the front pages of the papers. Pres Bush has a long memory, but he chooses to use it when he knows he can win it all! The clintons should have thought twice about running Reno and yes the clintons are behind the Reno run -- don't kid yourselves!

15 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by PhiKapMom
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To: PhiKapMom
The clintons just declared war on the Bush Family with Reno throwing her hat in the ring in FL! Do you seriously think that let bygones be bygones which was ony a public perception anyways will continue. You can get money that since Ashcroft now has some of his own people which were confirmed not that long ago, things will change.

I hope you're right -- otherwise all of us are involved in something far more sinister and smellier than I once imagined.

16 posted on 12/31/1969 4:00:00 PM PST by wayne_shrugged
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To: PhiKapMom
I think that you have hit on part f the reason that Reno is running. The Democrat leaders who are pushing this (Clinton, McC et al) are already planning on using her candidacy as a shield. Now, with her running, they can paint any investigation as partisan politics aimed at discrediting the opponent of the Presidents brother ... and sadly, the people of this country will likely buy that line. Her candidacy alone provides another year of cover ... and by the time it's over, and she is gone, the Clintons will be 2 years removed from the WH and it may be beyond the political realm of possibility to drag up 2 year old scandals.
17 posted on 09/05/2001 8:19:22 AM PDT by BlueNgold
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To: Brian Allen
You have to be real ignorant of the situation to think a case before judges appointed by Clinton and a jury that loves Clinton would get a conviction. I do not think you believe that. And only Bill, and Hilary could want that to happen.

The jurisdiction for any case against anyone who worked in Washingotn in the Clinton administration would have to be tried in Washington D.C. The odds are 100 to 1 that the judge assigned to try Clinton would be a Clinton appointed judge. We have had a case where the presiding judge was accused of assigning all cases against Clinton and his people to Clinton friendly judges. The Clinton judges ruled that was not the case even though the regular assignment procedures were not followed and Clinton friendly judges were appointed to hear every one of the cases.

Ashcroft would have to get a D.J. grand Jury to indict Clinton. Starr did not get that done in D.C. but Ashcroft could likely get an indictment.

But the odds are fantastic that the judge would be in Clinton's hip pocket. A Clinton judge would likely throw the case out. Both Clintons would walk and have been vindicated in history by the decision of a federal judge. Woudn't the media have fun with that.

However there is an outside chance Ashcroft could get it before a jury. Such cases can be won even against a crooked judge, if you have a fair jury. If you look at the D.C. jury pool there is not a snowballs chance in hell that anyone could get a D.C. jury to convict him.

You know that finding a person innocent, can not be appealed. So the Clintons would be certified innocent by a court and jury. The media would demand that both Dubya and Ashcroft be impeached for prosecuting a man found completely innoncent by a judge and jury. It is likely that with the media's power both Dubya and Ashcroft would be impeached and convicted. That would make a Hillary presidency in 2004 a sure thing.

That has to be your goal in calling Ashcroft, Janet Ashcroft. You have to be a huge Bill, Hillary, and Janet fan.

One thing is certain you are doing all you can do to return them to power. I for one hope your crusade to return the Clinton gang to power fails.

18 posted on 09/05/2001 8:27:45 AM PDT by Common Tator
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I recently moved without obtaining cable. Part of the reason is because television doesn't report the news. I have to go to the Internet to hear about this sort of outrage.
19 posted on 09/05/2001 8:37:04 AM PDT by Tymesup
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To: BlueNgold
I think that you have hit on part of the reason that Reno is running.

It is the ONLY reason. Reno is an extremely unattractive candidate. She is running FROM, not FOR.
20 posted on 09/05/2001 9:36:19 AM PDT by MamaLucci
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