Posted on 09/04/2001 10:28:47 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
Creationists are a strange bunch. They like to use the scientific method (as they interpret it) to justify their claims about the age of the Earth, evolution and so on. However, if anyone uses that same scientific method to refute their claims, then obviously that person is completely wrong. (Note : This article deals with "Young Earth" creationists, although there are many other types.)
Creationists are happy to accept any scientific data that supports (or at least appears to support) their theory, whether it comes from fellow creationists or from the scientific establishment. Where their theory is not supported, or even flatly contradicted by "standard" science, they fall back on faith, ad hoc hypotheses, conspiracy theories, misrepresentations of science or even outright lies.
If you examine creationist articles, they often cite many papers from mainstream scientists, and use these to back up their claims. Interestingly, if you examine the citations, you often find that they are quite old (often at least twenty years, and occasionally over seventy!). Whether or not the theories are out of date, or have changed or even been abandoned since then is irrelevant - it's a science paper that can be interpreted as supporting a young universe, so it will do nicely. The intended audience is unlikely to know the current state of that particular science, so the reference to the paper or journal lends a lot of weight to the creationist argument (which would float off into space otherwise). Also, any controversies in science are good ammunition for the creationists. Whenever scientists disagree over something, that will be used as solid evidence that the theory in question is defunct (unless, of course, it's a creationist theory). Most people recognise that science thrives on debate. All current theories can be, and should be, questioned. If theories were not questioned, and scientists never argued, science would grind to a halt and no progress could ever be made. Could it be a coincidence that creationists rarely disagree with or question each others theories (even contradictory ones), and their "science" has not changed in the thousands of years since Genesis was written?
Here I shall explore some of the blatant problems with key points of Creationism - the doctrine that the Universe was created exactly as described in the Book of Genesis.
[Long article, with good links. 90% is omitted here.]
For the full article, go to the site: Creation Science .
I dunno. Tossing the words "whack," "job," and "Big Bang" into the same sentence seems a little suggestive...
Don't believe everything you misread.
What you're probably referring to is the possible (but tiny and as-yet unverified) time dependence in the electromagnetic coupling constant, which is a very different thing.
What kind of E are you? At our orgies, we use consenting adult oil.
An argument from personal incredulity doesn't discredit the Theory of Evolution.
O yeah! You understand evolution perfectly. Tell us more!
Your post(Tapioca)didn't(Pinochle)make(Bariatrics)--any sense!!!!!
Might as well start thread #2 right now; this one's about to get too long to read.
:-)
Either that, or he's the first (bite me) person to exhibit Tourette's Syndrome (oh mama!) on the internet...
You mean you're not looking forward to medved's 7,562,463rd posting of his links, "what could be stupider than that" thing, and the racist transcriptions of song lyrics?
All available evidence shows that the speed of light is always constant
There has been plenty of evidence to show that this might not be so. Click here for a good treatise on the subject.
If you're going to have a religion bashing thread, at least make sure you're posting facts.
*Please* Use Extreme Caution In Messing With the Speed of Light -- Perils of CDK
Were Adam and Eve Toast?
We do do research before posting...
I would put almost none of the stuff in your link in the category of "evidence" at all. Essentially all of it is raw speculation.
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