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The Right Questions about America’s Strikes on Venezuelan Narco-Boats
American Greatness ^ | 12/07/2025 | Michael S. Kochin

Posted on 12/07/2025 7:12:06 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Once again, the United States is using lethal force off its shores. In recent weeks, American drones and warships have sunk or disabled a string of speedboats in international waters off Venezuela. Washington says the vessels belonged to narcoterrorist networks tied to the Maduro regime and Tren de Aragua and that they were carrying cocaine and fentanyl precursors bound for the United States. At least 83 alleged traffickers and others are dead. Caracas calls this extrajudicial murder. Human-rights groups call it assassination. Cable-news panels and UN press releases are already rehearsing the same ritual question: Is this legal under international law?

That is the wrong question—not because the answer is obvious, but because the question itself is a trap. It drags debate into a framework that has repeatedly shown itself incapable of distinguishing between arsonists and firefighters. Instead of reflexively asking, “Is it legal?” we should be asking three far sharper questions:

Is it smart? Does disrupting these particular boats and networks actually reduce the flow of deadly drugs into American cities, or does it simply scatter the traffickers to new routes and methods? Do we have good intelligence, practicable rules of engagement, and a realistic theory of how this contributes to an overall strategy? Or are we just generating dramatic footage at long-term expense?

Is it just? Are we inflicting a level of collateral damage that we would condemn if the roles were reversed? Justice toward individuals—both the American overdose victims and the people on (or near) those boats—demands more than moral intuition; it demands rigorous standards we can defend in daylight.

Is it in the lasting interest of the American people? Short-term tactical wins are easy to cheer, but do these operations strengthen or weaken broader U.S. goals—stabilizing the hemisphere, deterring China and Iran (who back Maduro), protecting sea lanes, and preserving America’s reputation as a country that is on the side of justice, peace, and freedom? Impulses are not the same as “our interest, guided by justice,” which, as George Washington taught us, should be our lodestars in navigating peace and war.

Notice what these three questions have in common: none of them treats “Venezuelan sovereignty” or “proportionality” or “UN Charter compliance” as magic words that settle the matter. They also do not assume the strikes are automatically wise or automatically reckless. They simply refuse to outsource moral and strategic judgment to a legal-academic consensus that has spent the last two decades tying itself in knots over cases most people intuitively get right.

That consensus once spent years debating whether the raid that killed Osama bin Laden in Abbottabad was an “extrajudicial execution” and a violation of Pakistani sovereignty. It has issued arrest warrants for Israeli leaders alongside Hamas commanders, as if defending a country against a genocidal attack were morally symmetrical to launching one. Now this same interpretive machinery is mobilized to analyze speedboats full of fentanyl precursors. Instead, it would be a useful, if negative, step toward a freer, more peaceful, and more just world if this machinery for obscuring evil and besmirching good were dismantled.

None of this is an argument that the law does not matter. Rules of engagement, congressional oversight, and basic transparency remain indispensable—if only because they help us answer the smart questions honestly. But when the very vocabulary of “international legality” consistently blurs the difference between indecent actors and those who block them, it is no longer a useful compass. It becomes a smoke machine operated, willfully or not, in defense of indecency.

Americans are right to demand that their government act with cunning, with justice, and with a cold-eyed view of the national interest. Whether the current operations in the Caribbean meet those standards is a legitimate and urgent debate. But we will never get to the bottom of it if we keep letting the debate be framed by a legal paradigm that aims at fairness in the struggle between good and evil.

We should stop contending within a framework of “customary international law” that has never been democratically endorsed, and institutions that, in their actual operation ,are hard to defend with decency. Let us argue about justice, costs, and consequences instead. Those are the only questions worth discussing.


Michael S. Kochin is Professor Extraordinarius in the School of Political Science, Government, and International Relations at Tel Aviv University. He received his A.B. in mathematics from Harvard and his M.A. and Ph.D. in political science from the University of Chicago. He has held visiting appointments at Yale, Princeton, Toronto, Claremont McKenna College, and the Catholic University of America. He has written widely on the comparative analysis of institutions, political thought, politics and literature, and political rhetoric. With the historian Michael Taylor he has written An Independent Empire: Diplomacy & War in the Making of the United States (University of Michigan Press, 2020).


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: boats; caribbean; drugboats; military; narcotics; smuggling; venezuela

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1 posted on 12/07/2025 7:12:06 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Want to find the cartels?

Who is buying outboard motors in bulk?


2 posted on 12/07/2025 7:14:53 PM PST by Salvavida
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To: SeekAndFind

Questions that misdirect. Right question is : is it effective?


3 posted on 12/07/2025 7:16:54 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: SeekAndFind

Why do we even have to ask questions??

Just F do it


4 posted on 12/07/2025 7:27:18 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat (The point of a gun is the only law that leftists understand )
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To: SeekAndFind
I hate liberals. Can you imagine them trying to interfere in WWII, second guessing Eisenhower at every turn?

The drug traffickers are killing Americans with poison. Liberals are more worried about the color
in your breakfast cereal than the drug dealers targeting our sons, daughters, brothers, and sisters.

5 posted on 12/07/2025 7:41:43 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie ( O give thanks unto the Lord, for He is gracious, and his mercy endures forever. — Psalm 106)
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To: SeekAndFind

I would like to know their intended destination,
and who was sitting there waiting for them to arrive.


6 posted on 12/07/2025 7:48:11 PM PST by Repeal The 17th (Get out of the matrix and get a real life.)
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To: Repeal The 17th

I suspect the go fast boats aren’t transiting all the way to America. Instead they are meeting larger vessels at sea and transferring their load of poison to any number of destinations.

America is actually protecting the world from scum and villainy.

It’s effective for now. The scum will find another tactic and do will we.


7 posted on 12/07/2025 7:57:39 PM PST by cyclotic (Don’t be part of the problem. Be the entire problem)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ukrainian drones are undoubtedly killing Russian refinery workers.

Russian drones are undoubtedly killing Ukrainian power plant workers.


8 posted on 12/07/2025 8:07:33 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

WIKI

In all 1,570 French cities and towns were bombed by the Allies between June 1940 and May 1945. The total number of civilians killed was, at least, of 68,778 men, women and children (including the 2,700 civilians killed in Royan).

The total number of injured was more than 100,000. The total number of houses completely destroyed by the bombings was 432,000, and the number of partly destroyed houses was 890,000. The cities that saw the most destruction were the following:

Saint-Nazaire (Loire Atlantique): 100%
Tilly-la-Campagne (Calvados): 96%
Calais (Pas-de-Calais) : 95%
Vire (Calvados): 95%
Royan (Charente-Maritime): 95% [3]
Le Portel (Pas-de-Calais) : 94%
Dunkerque (Nord) : 90%
Villers-Bocage (Calvados): 88%
Boulogne-sur-Mer (Pas-de-Calais) : 85%
Le Havre (Seine-Maritime): 82%
Beauvais (Oise) : 80%
Lorient (Morbihan) : 80 %
Brest (Finistère) : 80 %
Saint-Lô (Manche): 77%
Falaise (Calvados): 76%
Lisieux (Calvados): 75%

The bombings in Normandy before and after D-Day were especially devastating. The French historian Henri Amouroux in La Grande histoire des Français sous l’Occupation, says that 20,000 civilians were killed in Calvados department, 10,000 in Seine-Maritime, 14,800 in the Manche, 4,200 in the Orne, around 3,000 in the Eure. All together, that makes more than 50,000 killed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_France_during_World_War_II


9 posted on 12/07/2025 8:11:47 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: SeekAndFind

On May 27, 1943, Allied bombings killed 3,012 French civilians in bomb runs over Marseille, Avignon, Nîmes, Amiens, Sartrouville, Maisons-Laffitte and Eauplet.


10 posted on 12/07/2025 8:12:50 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: SeekAndFind

11 posted on 12/07/2025 8:14:07 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: SeekAndFind

I have lost 2 neighbors to illegal drugs on my street alone.


12 posted on 12/07/2025 8:18:01 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: SeekAndFind

This man gets it.

L


13 posted on 12/07/2025 8:22:45 PM PST by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Relatively easy questions to answer.

Is it smart? Does disrupting these particular boats and networks actually reduce the flow of deadly drugs into American cities, or does it simply scatter the traffickers to new routes and methods? Do we have good intelligence, practicable rules of engagement, and a realistic theory of how this contributes to an overall strategy? Or are we just generating dramatic footage at long-term expense?

Each of these boats were loaded with huge quantities of drugs so, yes, it greatly reduces the flow. The fact that 83 boats have been sunk so far demonstrates unequivocally that they haven't "scattered to new routes" yet. When they do actions can be taken on those routes.

Is it just? Are we inflicting a level of collateral damage that we would condemn if the roles were reversed? Justice toward individuals—both the American overdose victims and the people on (or near) those boats—demands more than moral intuition; it demands rigorous standards we can defend in daylight.

No, there is no collateral damage. The men on the boats are narco-traffickers by definition. There are no other people near a boat traveling 70 mph on the open water. American overdose victims are not affected by drugs that never make it to our shores or the deaths of narco-traffickers. They overdosed on drugs that made it through.

Is it in the lasting interest of the American people? Short-term tactical wins are easy to cheer, but do these operations strengthen or weaken broader U.S. goals—stabilizing the hemisphere, deterring China and Iran (who back Maduro), protecting sea lanes, and preserving America’s reputation as a country that is on the side of justice, peace, and freedom? Impulses are not the same as “our interest, guided by justice,” which, as George Washington taught us, should be our lodestars in navigating peace and war.

Strong military actions against objective threats to national security absolutely add a deterrent factor for hostile state actors such as Iran, China and Venezuela as well as any other states contemplating harmful action towards the U.S. anywhere in the world. They would be fools to come to any other conclusion.

This professor has lived in his own head for so long that he can't see anything beyond the lint in his own navel. In that bubble he's living in he's a genius. In the rest of the world he is an imbecile.

14 posted on 12/07/2025 8:23:42 PM PST by TigersEye (The primary Democrat/leftist strategy is "Create maximum chaos every which way you can.")
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To: SeekAndFind

“On July 2, 1915, an explosion rocked the US Capitol building. The next day, John Pierpont Morgan Jr., the richest man in America, was shot by an intruder who was caught and taken into custody.”

https://discover.hubpages.com/education/World-War-1-History-July-1915-US-Capitol-Bombed-J-P-Morgan-Jr-Shot


15 posted on 12/07/2025 8:24:37 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Governor Dinwiddie
the drug dealers targeting our sons, daughters, brothers, and sisters.

I have nothing good to say for drug dealers - if I could, I would revive the declaration of outlawry for them and let the chips fall where they may.

But drug dealers are rich because they have customers. And if your sons or daughters are buying fentanyl, with or without xylazine, or methamphetamine, you have problems closer to home that have nothing to do with "drug dealers".

16 posted on 12/07/2025 8:27:16 PM PST by Jim Noble
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My mistake. There have been 83 traffickers killed not 83 boats sunk.
I think my point still stands though. They haven’t stopped trying to get boats through yet.


17 posted on 12/07/2025 8:31:58 PM PST by TigersEye (The primary Democrat/leftist strategy is "Create maximum chaos every which way you can.")
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To: cyclotic

Could be they’re hooking up with cruise ship crew or staff in ports.


18 posted on 12/07/2025 8:39:08 PM PST by MayflowerMadam ( "Trouble knocked at the door, but, hearing laughter, hurried away". - B. Franklin)
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To: Jim Noble
People make bad choices. If someone were about to step off a cliff, I'd stop them. I might even put up a fence at the cliff's edge.

19 posted on 12/07/2025 8:41:56 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie ( O give thanks unto the Lord, for He is gracious, and his mercy endures forever. — Psalm 106)
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To: TigersEye

I don’t think you read the article and what he was really saying. Instead of slowly digesting you hastily picked the words that went against your line of belief and blasted the writer.

Reread the article and this time slowly.


20 posted on 12/07/2025 8:43:20 PM PST by Jarhead9297
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