Posted on 12/02/2025 3:59:41 PM PST by EnderWiggin1970
Without Iraq-style lies about Russia, the collusion hoax, the impeachment farce, and the 51 intel officials laundering deception for political gain, there likely would have been no Russia-Ukraine war.
The proposed Ukraine peace deal has shaken the political class that insisted escalation with Moscow was the only acceptable course. How, they ask, can Russia possibly walk away with concessions? Part of this is simply material: Russia has ground out battlefield gains and retains the manpower and resources to sustain the war indefinitely. But that is only one dimension of it.
The fuller answer reaches back long before the first tanks crossed the border. It began a decade earlier, when a small clique of Washington insiders decided Russia would be the villain in every story and Ukraine the instrument to make it so. From the 2014 Kiev coup to the Russia-collusion hoax to the Ukraine impeachment fiasco, the same actors built a narrative architecture that rewired the entire geopolitical landscape and made war not just possible but almost inevitable. The peace deal now taking shape is, at least in part, the price of that deception.
While Donald Trump was the primary target of the collusion smear, Russia and its 144 million citizens were relentlessly vilified in the process, making them, uncomfortable as it may be to admit, victims in their own right. That reality has been almost entirely erased from mainstream discussion of both the war and the negotiations over its end. But it cannot be wished away. It will have to be reckoned with, whether people like it or not.
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WoT and Golf war taught people in Washington that the path to prestigious positions and ability to graft the country comes from a foreign enemy policy.
"...Donald Trump was the primary target of the collusion smear...."
Us National Debt in 2000 was 5.7 trillion. Today, 38 Trillion.
So you have a point.
“Indefinitely “ looking at the Russian economy I would say a year at most
Oil revenue slashed and dropping
National wealth fund drained
Selling gold
National debt skyrocketing
Food exporter to food importer
Fuel exporter to fuel importer
2nd largest weapons exporter to net weapons importer and after war not likely to come back based on battlefield performance
Huge Soviet legacy equipment stockpiles to empty storage yards
Putin’s 3 day war is rapidly closing in on the length of the “great patriotic war”
Black Sea fleet in hiding and reduced by a third
Air defense cannot protect Russian infrastructure
Indefinite? I think it is pretty finite
And they all gorged and got fabulously wealthy moving all our manufacturing to China. Then magically, China became the menace and we need to spend trillions more to build up the military to confront them.... and they will get fabulously wealthy on THAT build up.
No matter what, they always do great and middle America takes it in the shorts.
Don’t forget how “Putin’s Chef” spent a mere $100K on Facebook Ads, and swung the 2016 election to Trump!
Or as "President Palin" unforgettably put it in Iron Sky, "Presidents that start a war in their first term ALWAYS get re-elected!"
the whole “Russia-collusion” thing was a joint-venture: The US Intel deep-state, the British/MI6 and to a lesser extent, the idiot leadership of the Democrat Party.
What trash this is! Russia is the Villain and has been since it kidnapped Eastern Europe after WWII.
Does anyone remember East and West Germany?
No one forced Russia to start invading Ukraine in 2014.
“The fuller answer reaches back long before the first tanks crossed the border. It began a decade earlier, when a small clique of Washington insiders decided Russia would be the villain in every story and Ukraine the instrument to make it so”
To make that argument plausible and not just a Kremlin position, those “insiders” had to engineer the multiple Putin assassination attempts on Ukraine leaders all PRIOR to 2014, which was not the case. The arguments against Putin attempts to engineer Ukraine into a mere satrapy of Russia began back then, not in 2014. Those were Putin’s attempts to move the de facto borders of Russia closer to western Europe, by occupying all of Ukraine. The pro-Putin camp has the whole narrative backwards.
Russia may have trouble brewing, but while the EU may be able to afford the treasure to support Ukraine indefinitely, I do not think Ukraine is willing to spend the blood to resist the Russians indefinitely.
Let’s pretend American soldiers are in Russian boots and uniforms.
Could such soldiers beat Ukraine?
Of course they could.
“Selling gold”
If you can get $4,000/oz. for your gold and think you can buy it in the future for $2,000/oz., you’d probably sell.
The fundamental cost of production of gold hasn’t doubled.
“2nd largest weapons exporter to net weapons importer and after war not likely to come back based on battlefield performance
Huge Soviet legacy equipment stockpiles to empty storage yards”
The legacy weapons are obsolete. The new weapons such as drones and cluster shells are comparatively cheap.
Russia won’t need to fight “indefinitely.” Only until their territorial goals are met, then they will settle for a cease fire and negotiations. Currently they gain more ground every day. That’s why Putin is in no hurry to stop.
Since the Soviet Union collapsed, NATO has repeatedly lied to Russia. The establishment completed an insurrection in Ukraine in 2014 which resulted in over 100,000 deaths. My God have mercy on their souls.
He was the threat to their endless wars/Deep state con. What amazes me, is the number of people here at FR who still realize nothing. Are they complicit in some form or fashion? I’m really beginning to think that they are, because I refuse to think that they are really that stupid.
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