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Do Democrats Know What They’re For?
MSN.com ^ | 11/11/2025 | Ross Barkan

Posted on 11/12/2025 4:29:03 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

It is understandable that many Democrats are furious with the senators who voted to end the government shutdown. There is a feeling that, finally, Democrats had leverage over Donald Trump as SNAP benefits were cut and Americans largely blamed Republicans, not the Democratic Party, for the resulting chaos. The overwhelming electoral victories last week across the country only seemed to strengthen the Democratic position. Why cave now? Especially when the stated goal — saving Obamacare subsidies — won’t actually be achieved?

These questions highlight the ultimate Democratic dilemma and why their Senate leader, Chuck Schumer, who gave cover for enough of his colleagues to break with the caucus and vote to reopen the government, was doomed: The Democrats really had no feasible endgame. They do not control the government. Republicans have their trifecta, and Trump and his party can do what they want. That was the consequence of the 2024 election that Democrats will have to live with until at least 2027.

Would a longer shutdown have broken the Republicans on the health-insurance subsidies? Would all the canceled flights and vanishing food aid have brought them to the negotiating table? Maybe. But there was an incoherence to the overall Democratic messaging and strategy. No strong or compelling argument was ever made for the shutdown. It was either to save Obamacare or stop funding fascism or win some other concession from the GOP that was likely not forthcoming. Democrats can at least comfort themselves that the prolonged shutdown may have benefited them in Virginia where they seized a governing trifecta last week and voters, many of them reliant on the federal government.

One greater motivator for the Senate Democrats who voted to end the shutdown was the fear that Republicans could abolish the...

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1 posted on 11/12/2025 4:29:03 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

They hate Trump and his supporters. That’s what they’ve been running on for years, what they’re currently running on, and what they’ll be running for at least the next three years.


2 posted on 11/12/2025 4:32:03 PM PST by Dan in Wichita
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

They’re for what they’ve always been for, and always will be for: whatever gets them the most power, as quickly and cheaply as possible, without regard to anything else. That’s the only rule.


3 posted on 11/12/2025 4:32:21 PM PST by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Sure, the do....they know EXACTLY what they’re for: COMMUNISM and the complete destruction of the USA as we know it. They hate America and her People. The whole godless bunch belong in GITMO along with the RINOs.


4 posted on 11/12/2025 4:32:53 PM PST by lgjhn23 ("On the 8th day, Satan created the progressive liberal to destroy all the good that God created...")
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It’s not really understandable . I have no idea what the Dems actual plan was besides winning some elections (that they were most likely going to win regardless).
Just keep the federal government shut down forever to hurt the economy ?


5 posted on 11/12/2025 4:45:34 PM PST by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Just listened to Jeffries praise all the Federal Employees, air Traffic folks, military....and thanked them for their work.

He forgot to mention that they would have gotten their pay on schedule if he and Schumer hadn't conspired to shut the government down.

6 posted on 11/12/2025 4:50:33 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Hmmm...we know they are for:
Drugs
Crime
Illegals and no borders
Murdering babies
Trannies
Homos
$100 trillion nation debt
Plantation slave voters
Weak defense
Rigged elections
Putting Trump in prison

Not much there for Average Joe.


7 posted on 11/12/2025 4:55:09 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom ( )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I remember them cheering for Satan many years ago.


8 posted on 11/12/2025 5:04:52 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

They are no longer democrats.
They do what islamocommie shadow pres. BHO tells them to do.
And they’re screwed!


9 posted on 11/12/2025 5:15:15 PM PST by doc maverick
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Slavery, Socialism &; Sodomy in that order since the 1860’s.


10 posted on 11/12/2025 5:22:58 PM PST by Nebr FAL owner (Treason is the reason for Democrat Sedition & subvertion )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The MSN, and all of the leftwing NEWS/OPONIONS is sickening. Notice how they threw in on their own how it’s the Republicans shutdown and not on the Democrats (THEIR OWN OPONION) but who the Democrats voted 15 times to keep it closed (notice they didn’t throw in that FACT/TRUTH). And winning three elections in deep blue states they claim are BIG BIG WINS. If that isn’t BIASED GARBAGE? NOT THE TRUTH that’s for sure. Sickening. Folks need to think for yourself. Republicans/Conservatives don’t stand a chance with these garbage medias. You’ll never get the truth or news FROM them.


11 posted on 11/12/2025 5:28:04 PM PST by alaskamomma
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Why cave now?

The statements preceding that question were all untrue.

12 posted on 11/12/2025 6:47:39 PM PST by HIDEK6 (God bless Donald Trump )
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To: escapefromboston
Just keep the federal government shut down forever to hurt the economy ?

You’re getting warm.

13 posted on 11/12/2025 6:48:57 PM PST by HIDEK6 (God bless Donald Trump )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

https://youtu.be/IWxxLaCUQEI

They are for anything that results in the demise of King Trump.


14 posted on 11/12/2025 7:00:28 PM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Tearing down society, so they can build it back in their Marxist image.


15 posted on 11/12/2025 7:00:31 PM PST by dfwgator ("I am Charlie Kirk!")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"There is a feeling that, finally, Democrats had leverage over Donald Trump as SNAP benefits were cut and Americans largely blamed Republicans, not the Democratic Party, for the resulting chaos. "

No doubt the ignorant among demRATs groomed by MSM.com believe that.
16 posted on 11/12/2025 7:23:48 PM PST by clearcarbon (Fraudulent elections have consequences.)
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To: Dan in Wichita

What you said - that was my first reaction to the headline. They DEEPLY hate Trump supporters. Hating Trump is the overriding theme of their lives. Hating Trump supporters, while calling us “haters”, overrides all of their relationships.

I am contemplating drafting my obituary in which I would state that my greatest heartache of my later years was that (naming them) for two of my sisters, their hatred of Donald Trump was stronger than their desire to have any relationship with me, for no other reason than I did not agree.

Then I read their social media posts, frequently calling our side “haters”.

I don’t expect any of this to ever change. Many millions of people, especially middle-age to senior females, are 100% dug in on this hatred game.


17 posted on 11/12/2025 7:49:19 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: alaskamomma

That MSN news feed has a lot of garbage in it. Lots of negative, misleading trash.


18 posted on 11/13/2025 1:01:51 AM PST by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them )
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