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The Hamas Deal Drags U.S. Into Gaza Nation Building
Front Page Magazine ^ | October 10, 202 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 10/09/2025 3:31:29 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

We’ve learned nothing from Afghanistan and Iraq.

On Oct 7, 2001, the United States began an ill-fated campaign to ‘nation build’ Afghanistan.

Now 24 years after that anniversary and 2 years after the Oct 7 attacks by Hamas, we may be on the cusp of an even worse nation-building program in Gaza that seems to have learned absolutely nothing from the disastrous nation-building operations in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Right down to resurrecting former UK PM Tony Blair to head ‘nation building’ in Gaza.

Nation building in Afghanistan and Iraq failed for three reasons.

  1. The Bush administration believed that the problem in Afghanistan, Iraq and other Muslim countries wasn’t the people, their culture or Islamic religion, but their governments.
  1. Bringing ‘democracy’ and ‘free enterprise’ into murderous tribal societies was supposed to marginalize Islamic terrorists by giving the locals something better to do than kill infidels.
  1. Foreign aid experts and world government types would build a ‘technocratic’ government propped up by international investments to turn Afghanistan and Iraq into Switzerland.

A generation later all of this seems idiotic and insane. And we’re about to do it all over again.

The Gaza ‘peace plan’ is based on these same three fantasies that failed disastrously in Afghanistan and Iraq. None of this would work even if Hamas did not exist. Since Hamas does exist and runs Gaza, it will fail even faster than Afghanistan or Iraq did. The only question is how much it will cost us. And how badly it will destabilize the region and spread Islamic terrorism.

The Gaza peace plan is rife with bullet points about “technocratic, apolitical governance”, “Arab partners”, “panels of experts” and using “international standards to create modern and efficient governance” that could have been taken from the nation building plans for Afghanistan and Iraq, not to mention the original efforts to create a ‘Palestinian’ state...

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: 123oclock4oclockzot; danielgreenfield; gaza; gazapeaceplan; greenfield; hamas; israelgazapeacedeal; multiplenicks; nationbuilding; randpaulsucks; trollfarm

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1 posted on 10/09/2025 3:31:29 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Trump is not Bush.


2 posted on 10/09/2025 3:33:14 PM PDT by Texas Eagle ("Throw me to the wolves and I'll return leading the pack"- Donald J. Trump)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Latest from Israel is that Trump WILL put US troops on the ground in Gaza. Unbelievable!


3 posted on 10/09/2025 3:34:33 PM PDT by jjotto ("...saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob, And I hated Esau...")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
It's Trump... not nation building, skyline building.

The Gaza Strip will become a luxury beach resort destination on the Mediterranian Sea.

-PJ

4 posted on 10/09/2025 3:35:05 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Ugh.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15179225/US-sending-200-troops-Israel-support-Gaza-peace-deal.html


5 posted on 10/09/2025 3:35:23 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Are we or the neighboring arab states going to pay to re-build? And Trump is nothing like the globalist RINOS and one-worlders. Not remotely close


6 posted on 10/09/2025 3:36:55 PM PDT by pissant ((Deport 'em all))
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To: jjotto

Chicago on the
Mediterranean.


7 posted on 10/09/2025 3:38:35 PM PDT by Texas Eagle ("Throw me to the wolves and I'll return leading the pack"- Donald J. Trump)
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To: 9YearLurker

Oh hell no. Huge mistake. Toss Linda from the plane


8 posted on 10/09/2025 3:41:14 PM PDT by iamgalt
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
greenfield here is a pea brain. Afghanistan is 252K square miles. Iraq is 169K square miles. they are huge. The Gaza strip is 140 square miles, roughly the size of Atlanta.

If Trump in conjunction with the arab and western powers can't fix gaza then they are all useless.

And another thing, did we invade gaza? I don't remember that episode.
9 posted on 10/09/2025 3:47:31 PM PDT by pissant ((Deport 'em all))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

As long as we have no troops there, I don’t care.

Any peacekeeping force will soon learn that these are people don’t want peace.


10 posted on 10/09/2025 3:47:44 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: jjotto

how ‘bout a link, nancy?


11 posted on 10/09/2025 3:48:13 PM PDT by pissant ((Deport 'em all))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I trust Daniel Greenfield’s take on most everything....we’ll see more as this moves along and hope he’s wrong this time! We’ll need to hear from Victor Davis Hanson on the subject and then we’ll know if Greenfield is right. The two I trust the most...


12 posted on 10/09/2025 3:49:53 PM PDT by Thank You Rush (!!!!!!)
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To: 9YearLurker

good try. they are not going to be in gaza


13 posted on 10/09/2025 3:53:20 PM PDT by pissant ((Deport 'em all))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
It is truly a shame that you lack the imagination to share what President Trump envisions for Gaza, which is a new Dubai.

Enjoy what time you have left here...


14 posted on 10/09/2025 3:55:04 PM PDT by StAnDeliver (TrumpII)
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To: pissant

I saw it on Hebrew Telegram.

See post #5. It’s everywhere now.


15 posted on 10/09/2025 3:58:01 PM PDT by jjotto ("...saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob, And I hated Esau...")
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To: pissant

You’re a real pissant.


16 posted on 10/09/2025 4:03:04 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: jjotto

TO ISRAEL. Not Gaza. I missed your previous posts bitching about the 30K to 40K troops stationed in the ME as of today. But 200 to help Israel, pass the smelling salts.


17 posted on 10/09/2025 4:07:17 PM PDT by pissant ((Deport 'em all))
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To: 9YearLurker

hence the name!


18 posted on 10/09/2025 4:08:05 PM PDT by pissant ((Deport 'em all))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Trump’s plan yo resettle the fakestinians to an Indonesian island (they have over 17,000 islands) René is the best, most promising plan of them all. It has the advantage of being an island. Very easy to monitor to make SURE that the savages can never again attack any civilized people anywhere on earth


19 posted on 10/09/2025 4:12:38 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians aren't born, they're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: jjotto

yep, 200 USA troops to “monitor” the peace deal ... absolutely nothing good can come of it for the USA: of course, 200 won’t be enough, and the end game will be more and more sent until eventually the entire lot will be withdrawn with their tails between their legs .... WTF has gotten into President Trump??? ... has he learned NOTHING from recent history?


20 posted on 10/09/2025 4:15:39 PM PDT by catnipman ((A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil))
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