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Nineteenth-Century Utah Provides A Template For Dealing With The Threat Of Islam
American Thinker ^ | September 26, 2025 | Vince Coyner

Posted on 09/26/2025 11:10:39 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

In 1899, Winston Churchill wrote the following:

Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die: but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.

I find this quote to be quite compelling. The most prescient aspect of it is this: “No stronger retrograde force exists in the world.” If Churchill is paying attention at all in Heaven, he’s banging on the podium saying, “See, I told you so!”

The other, more troubling element of this quote is this: “...and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall.” If anything characterizes western civilization in 2025, it is an almost complete absence of “the strong arms of science.”

Emotion has replaced science, rational thought, and common sense as the guiding principle in the Christian-dominated (i.e., Western) world. No longer are chromosomes determinative of a person’s gender. A series of ever-evolving fictional climate emergencies is used to force Western nations into handicapping their economies and reducing prosperity. Nations that took centuries or a millennium to coalesce are being shredded in a few years or decades as they import millions of third-world immigrants who share neither their cultural norms nor values.

Even in areas where science is literally part...

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KEYWORDS: invasion; islam; muslim
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MUSLIM POPULATION TIMELINE

  1. As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens.
  2. At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.

  3. From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves along with threats for failure to comply. At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

  4. When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris, we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam.

  5. After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues.

  6. At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare.

  7. From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels.

  8. After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in Bangladesh — Muslim 83%, Egypt — Muslim 90%, Gaza — Muslim 98.7%, Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%, Iran — Muslim 98%, Iraq — Muslim 97%, Jordan — Muslim 92%

  9. 100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace. Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in: Afghanistan — Muslim 100%, Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%, Somalia — Muslim 100%, Yemen ---Muslim 100%.


1 posted on 09/26/2025 11:10:39 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

When the founders mention “religion” in the Constitution and founding documents, they meant CHRISTIANITY by default, in all of its various standard permutations.

There is nothing wrong or unconstitutional about banning other competing religions in this nation.


2 posted on 09/26/2025 11:16:54 AM PDT by fwdude (Why is there a "far/radical right," but damned if they'll admit that there is a far/radical left?)
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FULL QUOTE:

“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property – either as a child, a wife, or a concubine – must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the faith: all know how to die but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilisation of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilisation of ancient Rome.”
― Winston Churchill, The River War


3 posted on 09/26/2025 11:18:55 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

BKMK


4 posted on 09/26/2025 11:19:46 AM PDT by ptsal (Vote R.E.D. >>>Remove Every Democrat ***h)
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To: fwdude
There is nothing wrong or unconstitutional about banning other competing religions in this nation.

There is nothing wrong with outlawing followers of a terrorist organization - that organization would be called Islam. Most of the leaders in the West are blind and stupid to what Islam had been and what it is today. Islam continues to murder Christians and Jews today just as it's done for the past 1400 years.

Western Europe and its Islamists should be setting off alarm bells in our nation. All we hear is crickets. Sadly, Trump's attitude toward Islam is not much different from W's. He's blind because like others, he believes there are good Muslims and terrorist Muslims. Like others, he fails to see Islam in history and he fails to acknowledge that Islam's Koran teaches its followers to kill Jews, Christians and all those who fail to submit to Islam. To quote Turkey's President Erdogan, "There is no moderate or immoderate Islam, there is only Islam."

5 posted on 09/26/2025 11:36:31 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Mid-Terms. Super majorities. Constitutional Amendments.

There is no other way. The author makes great points, but his solutions are naive. You can’t demand from a religion that employs deception to achieve its objectives: subjugation.


6 posted on 09/26/2025 11:45:04 AM PDT by Salvavida
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bttt


7 posted on 09/26/2025 11:47:38 AM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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To: Red Badger

If you posted that in Great Britain today you would be arrested for hate Speech.


8 posted on 09/26/2025 11:52:57 AM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: JesusIsLord

Islam is tied to terrorism. Ban Islam and you ban terrorism.


9 posted on 09/26/2025 11:59:48 AM PDT by fwdude (Why is there a "far/radical right," but damned if they'll admit that there is a far/radical left?)
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This article is significantly flawed in that its whole thesis is that Islam can be redeemed because Mormons integrated. Thing is, Mormons were always integrated and always believed in the Constitution and the founding.

Mostly what happened over the course of the “Mormon War” is that anti-mormon sentiment diminished to the point where we were left alone. Also, we didn’t really stop polygamy in 1890, it continued as a grandfathered practice until the 1940’s or 1950’s in the US.


10 posted on 09/26/2025 12:47:50 PM PDT by bone52 (Now is the time we dreamed of, and you are the hero you hoped for. Carpe diem!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I don’t know if America has the balls to stop them any more. Whenever I’ve spoken to people about this, they roll their eyes, glaze over, or argue with me about it.


11 posted on 09/26/2025 12:49:09 PM PDT by vpintheak (The left is violence.)
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Beyond 80%, the world is justified in eliminating the religion, for fear of any other part of the world getting infected. Muslim contamination is more deadly than any virus or any other widespread disease.


12 posted on 09/26/2025 12:57:28 PM PDT by adorno ( )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Legislation has been introduced in Congress, the “No Sharia Act” by Rep Fine and Self.


13 posted on 09/26/2025 1:02:52 PM PDT by grcuster
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islamic takeover is already being started in NY and has a good start in the UK and Germany and France.


14 posted on 09/26/2025 1:45:50 PM PDT by gildafarrell ("No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Bookmark.


15 posted on 09/26/2025 3:41:49 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

There was a legal case in India to have the Koran declared hate literature. After the case was presented to court, the Muslims in the sub-continent rioted, people were killed in the rioting, and the judges swiftly got rid of the case.

A reference to the contents of the case and the corresponding activities is this book.

Sita Ram Goel, “The Calcutta Quran Petition” (3rd ed.), 1999, Voice of India, New Delhi,

https://archive.org/details/the-calcutta-quran-petition-sita-ram-goel/mode/2up


16 posted on 09/26/2025 5:06:20 PM PDT by magooey (The Mandate of Heaven resides in the hearts of men.)
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Mormons wanted to be part of the US. You can bet that the world’s billion or so Muslims don’t.


17 posted on 09/26/2025 5:14:28 PM PDT by x
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To: dadgum

PING Musloids


18 posted on 09/26/2025 5:56:11 PM PDT by dadgum (Fight to WIN or do not fight at At )
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To: fwdude
When the founders mention “religion” in the Constitution and founding documents, they meant CHRISTIANITY by default, in all of its various standard permutations.

There is nothing wrong or unconstitutional about banning other competing religions in this nation.


Then why didn't they specifically say "Christianity" instead? What contemporaneous writings from the authors support that?

I'll agree that Islam is different as it is more than just a normal positive religion, it's an entire supplanting political system full of conquest and what every legitimate religion considers sin. It passes the boundaries of what is merely religion
19 posted on 09/28/2025 5:48:34 PM PDT by Svartalfiar (-)
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The language of the founders was such that “religion” was perfectly understood as true religion.


20 posted on 09/28/2025 7:46:11 PM PDT by fwdude (Why is there a "far/radical right," but damned if they'll admit that there is a far/radical left?)
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