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As a conservative I don't want government overreach, which having congress make laws limiting speech (even so called hate speech) is dangerous. So while I think it's deplorable, callus, uncivilized, etc. to celebrate Charlie Kirk's death, I believe it covered by the first amendment.

However, direct threats, advocating violence, encouraging lawlessness can cross the line. But it can be a slippery slope. Remember Thomas Becket and King Henry.

1 posted on 09/17/2025 2:26:02 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?
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The Democrat Party *is* a Terrorist Organization, or at the very least, Communist.


2 posted on 09/17/2025 2:31:18 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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Calling out those who say these evil hate filled things about Charlie Kirk and we conservatives and taken non violent action to fight back is ALSO covered under the 1stA.


3 posted on 09/17/2025 2:31:58 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Freedom is never free. It must be won rewon and jealously guarded.)
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For anyone else curious...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/kadia-goba/

A Buzzfeed hire?!

This is the best the comPost can do!?


4 posted on 09/17/2025 2:35:05 AM PDT by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away! 🇺🇸 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿)
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People aren’t getting canceled for being against Kirk. Thats silliness. But if you’re celebrating murder, that can get you into trouble, not bc of your politics, but bc of your character. Imagine someone partying and celebrating after 9/11 attacks. Imagine some celebrating after JFK or MLK assassinations. No one wants to be around a person like that because you come across as both unstable and d threatening. My advice, be any political stripe you want. No one cares, but revel in murder and you’ll likely get fired bc you’ve got serious problems.


5 posted on 09/17/2025 2:37:34 AM PDT by Mustangman
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"House Republicans threaten to cancel anyone who disparages Charlie Kirk"


6 posted on 09/17/2025 2:38:09 AM PDT by clearcarbon (Fraudulent elections have consequences.)
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The First Amendment generally prohibits the state from using a penalty, or the credible threat of a penalty, to retaliate against protected speech, experts added.
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The 1st Amendment prohibits government from punishing non-threatening speech. It does not require that government provide Omar with a platform to spew her hatred. Take it outside, witch.


10 posted on 09/17/2025 3:35:41 AM PDT by nagant
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To dehumanize a group of people in your society will lead to unspeakable evil


12 posted on 09/17/2025 4:03:58 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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Omar was fine with her own statements, but reposting a tweet that labels someone racist, could be rightly perceived as reflecting her own opinion of any Conservative Christian, thereby creating the aura of a ‘hostile work environment’ not only for her staff but also those staff and officials she may interact with. Speech that foments a hostile environment is not ‘protected’ speech.

As to George Floyd, Kirk said what many of us believe, Floyd was no angel (8 arrests, in and out of jail), having overdosed the prior month, was overdosing at the time of his arrest for passing conterfeit money, was saying he couldn’t breathe before being subjected to a restraint taught by the PD (that now is not being used). Kirk also said that the racial politics by Left after Floyd died was led by “corrupt and disingenuous voices”. Now that may conflict with the Saint George picture the Left forcefed the Black community in order to capitalize on Floyd’s death, but it is truth. Truth also is Kirk saying of course, Floyd didn’t deserve to die. The Left tends to leave that part off when criticizing Kirk for daring to mention Floyd’s name.


13 posted on 09/17/2025 4:34:14 AM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )
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“So while I think it’s deplorable, callus, uncivilized, etc. to celebrate Charlie Kirk’s death, I believe it covered by the first amendment.”

It certainly is...and so are the CONSEQUENCES for those actions, which include job losses and funding losses, but NOT jailing people, as they do in the UK, for example.


15 posted on 09/17/2025 5:29:12 AM PDT by BobL
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BECAUSE THEY ARE LYING and liars should ALWAYS be called out. That they are purposely defaming a good man doesn’t make it any different.
As to Omar, that POS, she should be kicked back to her mud hut in Somalia on the toe of our boot.


16 posted on 09/17/2025 5:41:33 AM PDT by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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I’m not listening to another word from the left. They have shown us who they are again and again. They have made their bed, now let them lie in it.


17 posted on 09/17/2025 5:48:55 AM PDT by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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Oh the irony. The wacko brother wife is cloaking herself in the First Amendment to justify killing someone who was exercising the First Amendment.

EC


18 posted on 09/17/2025 6:08:28 AM PDT by Ex-Con777 (Leftists quote the Constitution like an atheist quotes the Bible)
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I know that the Democrats started punishing people for comments they found distasteful or offensive, but that doesn’t justify our joining in. As good as it may feel, it’s still not right. It will perpetuate if we don’t stop it here.


19 posted on 09/17/2025 6:26:58 AM PDT by Spok (Beware the man who just wants to be left alone.)
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Republicans in Congress are launching an aggressive campaign to punish individuals they accuse of posthumously smearing Charlie Kirk, threatening to bring them before lawmakers, defund entities that protect them and oust them from positions of power.

They are also trying to castigate one of their own.


Sorry, that does not compute.

The second sentence is the complete opposite of the first.

Ilhan Omar is not republican, and she's not one of our own, and she's not even American.
20 posted on 09/17/2025 7:35:55 AM PDT by adorno ( )
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Let them speak. But, the ones who need punished are the ones who are calling for violence in the street. The trash spewing out of several democrat mouths’ are calling for open violence in the streets. That is not protected.


21 posted on 09/17/2025 8:39:25 AM PDT by Organic Panic ('Was I molested. I think so' - Ashley Biden in response to her father joining her in the shower. D)
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Using their own policies against them. PRICELESS!

They made the rules, now they get to experience them. Cry away whinners...


24 posted on 09/17/2025 9:15:23 AM PDT by packrat35 (“When discourse ends, violence begins.” – Charlie Kirk, and they killed him anyway)
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I agree with you. This doxing will be used against us as well I fear. If you have a progressive employer and are caught praising Charlie Kirk, your job could be in jeopardy. It will put a cramp on social media as posters will be too scared to post in the future - or will come to forums like this where they cannot be easily identified. I already keep away from facebook and posting on X because of my progressive employer.


25 posted on 09/17/2025 11:37:42 AM PDT by Sam Gamgee
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