It’s the only solution that makes sense.
And, pre-emptively, there are no cogent comparisons to Nazi Germany and the Sudetenland. So, Freepers and Zeepers, please don’t offer any.
That is all. As you were.
“play a roll” ?
The group picture taken after the meeting was grim.
I read somewhere that Macron wanted Europe to have seat if there were a three way meeting between Trump, Z, and Putin.
Giving up territory implies that you have it to begin with. Ukraine gave up territory over the past several years. Trump is just recognizing a reality and telling Ukraine and Europe to stop living in a fantasyland where Ukraine can have its old borders.
Yeah well l trust nothing l see from the Trump hating a-holes at The Mail.
Daily Mail...too many fake news stories...ignore
Wherever, whenever the final line is drawn there should be opportunity for those who’d rather end up on the other side of the line to shift sides and take their belongings (I suppose there’d be some limit, but ideally one greater than the “all you can personally carry” limit post WWII migrations.) And the receiving side should have a veto on their migration. Letting this happen is in Ukraine’s interest as if Russia says again in the future, “there are a bunch of people on their other side of the border who want to be with use so we’re going to take their land” Ukraine can point out they’d turned down the chance to join Russia before.
We did it to Yugoslavia, bombed he cr@p out of them, then split it up to ethnic origins. It worked with them , and will work fine in Ukraine.
This whole sequence of meetings has the feel of a scripted reality show. Trump the Nobel Prize earner.
Z-ski should take the deal and do the trilateral meeting.(no euro-weenies). This peace process is likely to take more than one meeting. It was good that there were no major public spats today.(Trump should have slapped yapper Merz for yapping ceasefire-no future invites for him)This went better than expected like the Alaska summit. Hope war ends soon.
Ukraine has only one way to get any land back and that’s to take it back by force.
Munich agreement:
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/munich1.asp
Munich agreement map:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.timetoast.com/public/uploads/photos/9963865/Munich_Agreement_Map.png
The peepers are out strong today.
Donetsk Oblast - 4,825.6 (100%)
Ukrainians - 2,744.1 (56.9%)
Russians - 1,844.4 (38.2%)
Greeks - 77.5 (1.6%)
Belarusians - 44.5 (0.9%)
Tatars - 19.2 (0.4%)
Armenians - 15.7 (0.3%)
Jews - 8.8 (0.2%)
Azeris - 8.1 (0.2%)
Georgians - 7.2 (0.2%)
Moldovans - 7.2 (0.2%)
Luhansk Oblast - 2,540.2 (100%)
Ukrainians - 1,472.4 (58.0%)
Russians - 991.8 (39.0%)
Belarusians - 20.5 (0.8%)
Tatars - 8.5 (0.3%)
Armenians - 6.5 (0.3%)
Kyiv - 2,567.0 (100%)
Ukrainians - 2,110.8 (82.2%)
Russians - 337.3 (13.1%)
Jews - 17.9 (0.7%)
Belarusians - 16.5 (0.6%)
Poles - 6.9 (0.3%)
Sevastopol - 377.2 (100%)
Russians - 270.0 (71.6%)
Ukrainians - 84.4 (22.4%)
Belarusians - 5.8 (1.6%)
Tatars - 2.5 (0.7%)
Crimean Tatars - 1.8 (0.5%)
Armenians - 1.3 (0.3%)
Jews - 1.0 (0.3%)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_Ukrainian_census
WIKI
Sequence of events following the Munich Agreement:
1. The Sudetenland became part of Germany in accordance with the Munich Agreement (October 1938).
2. Poland annexes Trans-Olza, an area with a Polish plurality, over which the two countries had fought a war in 1919 (October 1938).
3. Border areas (southern third of Slovakia and southern Carpathian Ruthenia) with Hungarian minorities became part of Hungary in accordance with the First Vienna Award (November 1938).
4. On 15 March 1939, during the German invasion of the remaining Czech territories, Hungary annexes the remainder of Carpathian Ruthenia (which had been autonomous since October 1938).
5. Germany establishes the Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia with a puppet government, on 16 March 1939.
6. On 14 March 1939, a pro-Hitler Catholic-fascist government declares the Slovak Republic, as an Axis client state.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_Agreement
EU helmets along a 680-mile DMZ line of pure rubble. The middle part of that line will be impossible to hold, the EU will be shot at from both sides. POP THE POPCORN!
