It’s the only solution that makes sense.
And, pre-emptively, there are no cogent comparisons to Nazi Germany and the Sudetenland. So, Freepers and Zeepers, please don’t offer any.
That is all. As you were.
Yep.
Wrong.
False flag: Hitler blamed Poland for starting WWII
False flag: Putin blamed Ukraine for starting this war.
Oh yeah? How's that, sport?
Hey Grok: What does the book “The Revenge of Geography” tell us about arbitrary borders?
Grok: In The Revenge of Geography (2012), Robert D. Kaplan argues that geography profoundly shapes political and historical outcomes, often overriding human attempts to impose arbitrary borders. He emphasizes that borders drawn without regard to natural geographic features—such as mountains, rivers, or cultural/ethnic divisions—tend to create instability and conflict.
I understand that it's a tough pill to swallow, in that it awards aggression and war.
But this didn't begin in 2022. The Russian invasion was that last resort after eight years of failed diplomacy and dirty tricks from the West.
The sad thing is that this was basically agreed to in the fall of 2014, long before thousands were killed. Obama and the US State Dept. have blood on their hands over this, even though they will not be held accountable for it.
Zelensky is in somewhat the same position as Napoleon III at the end of the Franco Prussian War only he is still free while Napoleon was a POW captured at Sedan. France gave up Alsace and Lorraine and formed a new state the Third Republic as the Empire passed from the scene. Zelensky has a decision. He cannot retake the occupied areas. His and Ukraine’s fate, unlike France in 1871, is not totally in his hands but if he chooses to continue the war he will be at the mercy of Europe and how far they are willing to go to assist him. My guess is that without the US they will not go very far. Result... the Ukies lose more, if not all.
Makes sense to Putin but not the 20,000 kids Putin stole. Or the thousands of families who used to live in that 20% who had to leave or get killed. Or to people who believe no one should go into another country and then say, hey, this is mine now... Or the families of all the families of the Russian soldiers who Putin had killed taking that land.
Did little Z fall on the floor and have a tantrum?
Spare Us your BS .
Its Chamberlain Sell out Part II ..and Trump the appeaser Sold Ukraine
and Europe to his buddy Putin who set up this fool .
The USA were already supposedly promised to protect Ukraine when the Clintons took their nuclear weapons .
Trump must have future business plans in Russia to sacrifice Ukraine .
Putin is a amoral KGB butcher and Trump knows it .
There is no security with evil Russia .
I am ashamed that a US President would grovel to a Russian Dictator.
Trump just killed the midterms and his Presidency .
It’s the only solution that makes sense.
And, pre-emptively, there are no cogent comparisons to Nazi Germany and the Sudetenland. So, Freepers and Zeepers, please don’t offer any.
That is all. As you were.
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But that is the ace card the neocon ideologues always play.
Every diplomatic situation is pre WW2 appeasement of Adolph Hitler.
They’ll always find some piece of foreign real estate to get Americans to die for........... they’re good at that.
You said
It’s the only solution that makes sense.
And, pre-emptively, there are no cogent comparisons to Nazi Germany and the Sudetenland. So, Freepers and Zeepers, please don’t offer any.
That is all. As you were.
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I wonder what made you think of that analogue?
Even so, I think context is important. Trump could have been showing Zelensky what he thought Putin wanted, not what he must give up. These would be different things. I cannot see any justification for any American president to dictate to any foreign leader what parts of his country he must give to another country for any reason. That is over-reaching.
If I were to say to you, it would make sense to reverse the Gadsden purchase and add southern California, giving all that to Mexico because they have occupied it and want it back, what would you say? That is what Zelensky probably said to Trump in diplomatic terms. As he should, if Trump suggested any such thing.
But if Trump said Putin wants this part, then that’s just a factual exchange. Why it would be on TV is part of a strategy to place common sense on the agenda. But dictating it would not be a good thing, or a good look.
I wish Russia did not have nuclear weapons, then perhaps they could be taught the lesson that Germany and Japan were taught in 1945, as they should be.
I've heard just about every tin-pot dictator called "the next Hitler" and every negotiation with said tin-pot dictator called "another Munich" and "another Chamberlain" over the past 40 years that they may as well make a neocon pull-my-string doll to say these things. It's like the boy who cried wolf, after a while, nobody of sound mind can take any of it seriously.