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Federal agents open fire at San Bernardino family during enforcement operation, DHS says
CNN ^ | 8/18/2025 | Karina Tsui

Posted on 08/18/2025 7:43:03 AM PDT by cuz1961

...immigration and Homeland Security agents, along with San Bernardino police, surrounded the family’s home, according to the Inland Coalition for Immigrant Justice. They remained at the scene until 3:45 p.m., despite never presenting a warrant, “pressuring the individual to come outside and placing the entire family in fear,” the organization said in a statement to CNN.

“This is a clear abuse of power. Firing at civilians, detaining families without cause, and silencing community voices is unacceptable and must end,” the organization said....

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


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Inland Coalition for Immigrant Justice

https://ic4ij.org/about

Who We Are The ICIJ, is composed of over 35 organizations that serve the immigrant community in the Inland Empire. The IC4IJ currently focuses on advocacy, changing the narrative, and capacity building. Our coalition engages in policy advocacy, community organizing and education, and rapid response to ICE and border patrol operations. We are collectively changing the narrative of the one million immigrants who live, thrive, and are a foundational part of the fabric of the IE. We are building organizational capacity through leadership development, cooperation, support networks, and shared regional strategies. Lastly, the IC4IJ provides resources such as training, technical support, and grants to coalition partners to further support their efforts and mission in the region.

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1 posted on 08/18/2025 7:43:03 AM PDT by cuz1961
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To: cuz1961

Are judge approved warrants required for illegal immigrant enforcement actions or not?


2 posted on 08/18/2025 7:44:37 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (US spending on Ukraine over 3.5 years exceeds the all military aid to Israel over 77 years. - Grok)
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To: cuz1961

“Our coalition engages in policy advocacy, community organizing and education, and rapid response to ICE and border patrol operations. “

“We are building organizational capacity through leadership development, cooperation, support networks, and shared regional strategies. Lastly, the IC4IJ provides resources such as training, technical support, and grants to coalition partners to further support their efforts and mission in the region.”

Sounds like conspiracy to commit numerous felonies to me.


3 posted on 08/18/2025 7:45:51 AM PDT by cuz1961
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To: cuz1961
“Federal agents open fire at San Bernardino family during enforcement operation, DHS says”

About time.

4 posted on 08/18/2025 7:46:35 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Uncle Miltie

Grok’s take:

“ Judge-approved warrants, also known as judicial warrants, are not always required for illegal immigrant enforcement actions in the United States, but the need for one depends on the specific circumstances of the enforcement action. Below is a clear explanation based on current U.S. law and practices, particularly referencing the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) and recent judicial rulings:
Key Points:
1. Administrative Warrants vs. Judicial Warrants:
• Administrative Warrants: U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and U.S. Border Patrol often use administrative warrants (e.g., Form I-200 for arrest or Form I-205 for removal/deportation) for immigration enforcement. These are issued by ICE or Department of Homeland Security (DHS) officials, not a judge, and are sufficient for many immigration-related arrests, especially in public spaces where there is no reasonable expectation of privacy. These warrants are authorized under 8 U.S.C. § 1357, which allows ICE officers to arrest individuals suspected of immigration violations without a judicial warrant.
• Judicial Warrants: A judicial warrant, issued by a federal judge and based on probable cause, is required for ICE or Border Patrol to enter private residences or non-public areas of businesses without consent, as protected by the Fourth Amendment. Administrative warrants do not grant this authority.
2. When Judicial Warrants Are Not Required:
• ICE and Border Patrol can arrest individuals in public spaces (e.g., streets, bus stops, or workplaces in public areas) without a judicial warrant if they have probable cause to believe the person is in violation of immigration laws.
• Warrantless Arrests: ICE officers can make warrantless arrests if they have probable cause and believe the individual is likely to flee before a warrant can be obtained. This is often applied during targeted operations or encounters in public.
• Expedited Removal: For certain migrants, particularly those apprehended within 100 miles of the border and within 14 days of entry, ICE can use expedited removal processes without a judicial warrant or court hearing, unless the individual claims fear of persecution.
3. When Judicial Warrants Are Required:
• Entry into Private Spaces: To enter a private home or non-public areas of a business without consent, ICE must have a judicial warrant signed by a federal judge, as administrative warrants lack the authority to override Fourth Amendment protections. Exigent circumstances (e.g., imminent danger or risk of flight) may allow entry without a warrant, but these are rare.
• Recent Judicial Rulings: Federal judges have imposed restrictions on warrantless arrests in specific contexts:
• In California, U.S. District Judge Jennifer L. Thurston ruled in April 2025 that Border Patrol agents in the Eastern District of California cannot arrest suspected undocumented immigrants without a judicial warrant unless they have reason to believe the person might flee.
• In Texas, Magistrate Judge Andrew Edison ruled in May 2025 that ICE must obtain a judicial warrant to search private areas of a business for suspected undocumented immigrants, emphasizing that administrative warrants (e.g., “Blackie’s warrants”) are insufficient for such actions.
• In Los Angeles, a tentative ruling by U.S. District Judge Maame Ewusi-Mensah Frimpong in July 2025 aims to restrict ICE from making indiscriminate stops without reasonable suspicion, though this does not explicitly require judicial warrants for all arrests.
4. Practical Context:
• ICE Operations: ICE often relies on administrative warrants or warrantless arrests during operations like “Operation Return to Sender” (January 2025), which led to legal challenges for alleged constitutional violations.
• Sanctuary Jurisdictions: Some states and cities (e.g., California, Chicago) have policies limiting cooperation with ICE, including requiring judicial warrants for detainer requests, which complicates enforcement.
• Court Challenges: Recent lawsuits, such as those by the ACLU and National Immigrant Justice Center, argue that ICE’s warrantless arrests violate the Fourth and Fifth Amendments, leading to court orders requiring reasonable suspicion or judicial oversight in some jurisdictions.
5. Legal Authority:
• The INA (8 U.S.C. § 1225, 8 U.S.C. § 1357) grants immigration officers broad authority to arrest without judicial warrants in many scenarios, particularly for administrative immigration violations, as opposed to criminal arrests.
• However, courts have increasingly emphasized Fourth Amendment protections, requiring judicial warrants for actions involving private property or where constitutional rights are at stake.
Conclusion:
Judge-approved (judicial) warrants are not required for most immigration enforcement actions in public spaces or for warrantless arrests with probable cause, as ICE can rely on administrative warrants or statutory authority. However, judicial warrants are required to enter private homes or non-public business areas without consent, and recent federal court rulings (e.g., in California and Texas) have imposed stricter requirements for reasonable suspicion or judicial oversight in certain jurisdictions. These rulings are often limited to specific districts and may face appeals, so the landscape varies by region and is subject to ongoing legal challenges.”


5 posted on 08/18/2025 7:46:55 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (US spending on Ukraine over 3.5 years exceeds the all military aid to Israel over 77 years. - Grok)
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To: Uncle Miltie

nope


6 posted on 08/18/2025 7:47:00 AM PDT by Glennb51
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To: Uncle Miltie

No but they are required to enter the residence without explicit permission. That’s the prob.


7 posted on 08/18/2025 7:48:13 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: cuz1961

I want to remind immigrants of your two most important rights regarding America: First is your right to not come here in the first place. Next is your right to leave.


8 posted on 08/18/2025 7:48:48 AM PDT by ComputerGuy
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To: SmokingJoe

Exactly.


9 posted on 08/18/2025 7:48:51 AM PDT by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
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To: cuz1961

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/san-bernardino-family-claims-federal-agents-shot-at-truck-shattered-windows/ar-AA1KEW1c?ocid=BingNewsSerp


read this article for a different perspective.

was it really ICE?


10 posted on 08/18/2025 7:49:31 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued, but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere)
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Now do January 6th grandmas handcuffed and hauled away from bingo games.


11 posted on 08/18/2025 7:49:40 AM PDT by bwest
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San Bernardino was the site of a murderous rampage by “migrants” from the Middle East...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_San_Bernardino_attack


12 posted on 08/18/2025 7:49:59 AM PDT by Does so ("Things will now change in Minneapolis AND AT HOME"....Dem☭¢rat... ∅ one ™ ¿ ¡ ☞ ½¼)
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To: cuz1961

If I am ICE, I would employ Game Wardens who do not need a warrant. That has always bothered me and what a way to get it exposed.


13 posted on 08/18/2025 7:50:01 AM PDT by Racketeer
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... composed of over 35 organizations that serve the immigrant community...

Sounds like its been festering for far too long.

14 posted on 08/18/2025 7:50:13 AM PDT by gundog (The ends justify the mean tweets. )
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To: cuz1961

FAKE NEWS


15 posted on 08/18/2025 7:51:57 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Frankly, I’d like a Supreme Court ruling that suspends any concept of Constitutional Rights for illegal aliens.

If you’re an illegal, you HAVE NO RIGHTS!!!

If you are a citizen, you HAVE PERCECTED RIGHTS!!!

If a cop suspects a person is illegal, he’d better be perfectly sure, then he can do whatever he wants that doesn’t break some other law (murder, as an extreme example).

But if he gets it wrong and jacks up a citizen, that citizen should be allowed to personally sue him for all he’s worth.

I’m kinda extreme on the subject. I want brutal, perfect clarity, so illegals are rights-less and citizens are rights-full.


16 posted on 08/18/2025 7:53:09 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (US spending on Ukraine over 3.5 years exceeds the all military aid to Israel over 77 years. - Grok)
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Inland Coalition for Immigrant Justice-——where does their funding come from?

Federal, state, local tax coffers?

Betcha we the people are paying the bills.


17 posted on 08/18/2025 7:53:41 AM PDT by Liz (May you be in Heaven half an hour before the devil knows you're dead (Irish blessing))
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To: Uncle Miltie

Nope. ICE Agents on site can rule on deportability of the individual. No judge needed. To actually enter house, local coppers can do that.

This is CNN, why would anyone so much as bother to read?


18 posted on 08/18/2025 7:55:42 AM PDT by bobbo666
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To: Uncle Miltie

I no longer trust CNN, and/or any of the other networks to accurately report the news. They consistently slant “news stories” to suit their various agendas.


19 posted on 08/18/2025 7:55:46 AM PDT by jacquej (“You cannot have a conservative government with a liberal culture." (Mark Steyn))
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To: Uncle Miltie

no they are not

civil warrants(no judge signature)

civil warrants limit their authority, ie cannot enter home


20 posted on 08/18/2025 7:56:02 AM PDT by joshua c
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