[Salman]

CNN views with alarm what I call winning.

Lots of other stuff on the list beside what I excerpted. Well worth reading.

[marktwain]

It neo-pagans who push to define two people of the same sex, living together, as a “marriage”.

It is a distinctly “modern” conception of marriage, with no history behind it.

[Spktyr]

I don’t see them rolling back gay marriage and I don’t think they should. (Wait for it...)

1. Why should not gay people have the opportunity to be as miserable as everyone else? and:
2. Forcing gay marriage licenses on unwilling red states under Full Faith And Credit plus Equal Protection then maintaining that means that the blue states have no grounds to complain when being forced to honor red states carry permits and perhaps even constitutional carry is forced upon them - among many other things, like NFA ownership. It’s an opportunity that we should be using.

[Blood of Tyrants]

While the whole gay marriage thing was going on, it was obvious to anyone who knew the proper role of the federal government, that marriage was a states issue and the federal court had no business taking the case.

[Blood of Tyrants]

While the whole gay marriage thing was going on, it was obvious to anyone who knew the proper role of the federal government, that marriage was the states 10th Amendment issue and the federal court had no business taking the case.

[Bruce Campbells Chin]

Leaving morality and religion out of it, Obergefell was an absolutely horrible decision legally. It's as indefensible analytically as was Roe v. Wade, and deserves to place Anthony Kennedy securely in the bottom ten all-time of Supreme Court justices.

But I think stare decisis will make this an 8-1 or 7-2 in favor of keeping it, with Thomas being the only sure vote to overturn.

[Verginius Rufus]

I think Kim Davis was deliberately targeted—the gays could have probably gotten their license in the next county without any trouble. Just like Christian bakers being targeted when there were plenty of other bakers who would be happy to make a wedding cake for a same-sex wedding.

[j.havenfarm]

Every time I hear the term “independent agency,” I grind my teeth. I don’t remember being taught in civics that there is a fourth branch of government consisting of independent agencies

[Texan5]

“Roosevelt-era precedent that protects the leaders of independent agencies from being fired by the president for political reasons.” Which independent agencies are they referring to? Surely not the ones whose leaders openly and politically support democrats...

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

Since the 1930s the courts have been deferring to the legislature saying “well, if they made a law then there must be some really good reason they are infringing on people's rights. So let's invent some far-fetched nonsense that still does not cover their sticking their nose into this area. Baffle them with BS baby!”

The job of the court is to look at the law and first to say, "is this even something that the government, federal, state or local, should be involved with?"

[Republican Wildcat]

A recent Supreme Court appeal from Kim Davis, a former county clerk from Kentucky who refused to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples, has raised concerns from some about the court overturning its decade-old Obergefell decision. Davis is appealing a $100,000 jury verdict – plus $260,000 for attorneys’ fees – awarded over her move to defy the Supreme Court’s decision and decline to issue the licenses. Davis has framed her appeal in religious terms, a strategy that often wins on the conservative court. She described Obergefell as a “mistake” that “must be corrected.”

All they had to do was drive to the next county. There was zero reason to target her. If they had any economic loss because of her, it was the cost of round trip mileage to the next county clerk's office - we can even throw in a steak dinner. That's all she should owe them.

[aquila48]

“has raised concerns from some about the court overturning its decade-old Obergefell decision. “

How about Obergefell overturning thousands years of pecedents of marriage being only between a man and a woman?

[MrRelevant]

The leftist have been manufacturing new political precedents, breaking political decorum and legal “norms” for the last 10 years….. now those same tactics are being used against them…

[mewzilla]

Related update!

Tom Fitton
@TomFitton

HUGE: Supreme Court Sets October 8 Argument for Challenge to Illinois’ 14-Day Post–Election Ballot Counting.
@JudicialWatch

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Illinois is blatantly violating fed law by counting ballots that arrive 14 days AFTER Election Day—inviting fraud and eroding voter confidence! @JudicialWatch
sued to stop this outrage on behalf of @RepBost and 2 voters, but lower courts shamefully blocked them from challenging
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[fwdude]

"...Obergefell v. Hodges that gave same-sex couples access to marriage nationwide a bludgeon to beat Christians with...,"

Edited for accuracy.

[fwdude]

For those who are not aware, Kim Davis did not refuse ONLY the sodomites demanding that she issue a marriage license to them. She stopped issuing ALL marriage licenses altogether, to anyone.

This policy was reasonable because the Obergefell opinion opened a lot of basic questions about what marriage intrinsically IS. No one could now define it, so it was to her credit to stop issuing licenses until that question could be sufficiently answered.

[Labyrinthos]

“Well worth reading.”

CNN - No thanks. Our goal as conservatives should be to put CNN out of business, not put money in its pocket.