Posted on 08/02/2025 4:21:48 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
US envoy to the Middle East Steve Witkoff visited Hostages Square in Tel Aviv on Saturday, speaking with families of hostages.
During his visit, he stated that Hamas is prepared to disarm as part of a ceasefire agreement.
In response, Hamas issued a statement denying Witkoff’s claim and emphasizing that “the resistance and its weapons are a national and legal obligation as long as the occupation continues.”
According to Hamas, armed resistance is a right “enshrined in international conventions and custom, and it cannot be relinquished until all our national rights are restored, foremost among them the establishment of an independent Palestinian state with full sovereignty, with Jerusalem (al-Quds) as its capital.”
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Walk away from Gaza, and let Israel do the necessary.
Walk away from Ukraine, and let Putin take the whole thing.
I really think any other ideas are foolish.
Sounds like Hamas lied to Witkoff. I agree with others, enough of the talking, just let Israel ‘take care of the problem’, especially because Witkoff has far more important things to do.
The head of the snake is Islam. Until we face up to that, we will just be engaged in deadly mental masturbation.
Chop all their arms off and they’ll be disarmed.
YES
Sounds like Witkoff lied.
They could try the approach of loudspeakers blaring, 24x7 to lay down your arms and surrender, and you will be treated by Geneva rules, even though you tortured and slaughtered Israelis. Divide the country by nort-So corridors and let Osraelis possess the Land in the middle 1/3 etc. But announce to the world there will be no Palestinian State.
Basically saying that there’s more Jews to kill.
Hamass needs to surrender and burn all of their Korans.
Don’t be silly. He is baiting them and they quickly showed their true colors.
Hamas has one objective, destroy Israel. They care not for the citizens of Gaza. Of course the citizen do nothing to but support their oppressors.
France Britain and others want to recognize these fools
“Sounds like Witkoff lied.”
I really doubt that, especially compared to the Palestinians.
why Israel and even USA deign to “negotiate” with Fakestinian or other Moslem terrorist gangsters is both insane and demeaning. It is also pointless. Eliminate them!
USA politicians almost never learn from history. Not even its own own nation’s history. You can’t negotiate with Moslem terrorists and if you do, it will only be about how much $$$ tribute you have to pay them. Never “peace” if only because of their view of their “religion” -— and because, in very very practical terms, terrorist attacks and murders are their “business” — indeed, they’re milking BILLIONS in tribute and “humanitarian aid” and yes, even weapons, from USA and European countries. Why shut down such a successful racket? And especially if you’ve no other opportunity to rake in so much dough ?
See:
Lessons From the Barbary Pirate Wars
“When I first read about the Somali pirates, I almost did a double take and turned to my wife at the breakfast table and said, ‘This is déjà vu,’ ” recalled Frank Lambert, a professor at Purdue who is an expert on the Barbary pirates.
Dr. Lambert explained how those brigands, like today’s Somalis, usually kept their hostages alive. It wasn’t out of any enlightened sense of humanity. It was simply good business. They only hanged captives from giant hooks or carved them into little pieces if they resisted. The Barbary pirates used small wooden boats, often powered by slaves chained to the oars, to attack larger European ships. They were crude but effective, like today’s Somali swashbucklers, who in November commandeered a 1,000-foot-long Saudi oil tanker from a dinghy in the Gulf of Aden, a vital shipping lane at the mouth of the Red Sea.
The pirates’ way of doing business was described this way at the time: “When they sprang to the deck of an enemy’s ship, every sailor held a dagger in each hand and a third in his mouth, which usually struck such terror in the foe that they cried out for quarter at once.” The quote is from Thomas Jefferson, then America’s ambassador to France, after he and John Adams, the envoy in London, got the description from Tripoli’s envoy to Britain in 1786.
And that underscores a key point. The Barbary pirates actually had an ambassador — who met with Jefferson and Adams, no less. The pirates worked for a government. The Barbary rulers commissioned them to rob and pillage and kidnap, and the rulers got a cut. It was all official. And open. It was truly state-sponsored terrorism. And the Western nations’ response was to pay “tribute,” a fancy word for blackmail.
If a country paid tribute, the 18th-century pirates would leave its ships alone. Today, shipping companies fork over as much as $100 million in ransoms to the Somali pirates, a strategy that saves their cargoes but also attracts more underemployed Somali fishermen into the hijacking business.
Eventually, though, Americans felt humiliated paying off a bunch of knife-sucking thugs in blousy pants. That’s what led to the Barbary Wars, first in 1801 when Jefferson became president, and again in 1815, when James Madison sent the United States Navy to shell the Barbary Coast. The battles became the stuff of legend — “the shores of Tripoli” in the Marine Hymn — and were critical in developing the nation’s young Navy.
The Barbary pirates were finally brought to their knees by their encounters with the Americans, and by the French invasion of Algiers in 1830.
Will this happen in Somalia? Last week — even before a French effort to rescue a family in a separate hijacking ended with the death of one hostage — Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton urged the world to “end the scourge of piracy.” But Somali piracy is not an isolated problem. It’s the latest symptom of what afflicts an utterly failed state — a free-for-all on land that has consumed the country since the central government imploded in 1991. As any warlord there can tell you, the violence is almost always about cash. “We just want the money” is their mantra.
Hamas has been strengthened by all the Euro-weenies now ready to give them official recognition.
Just let Israel go in and wipe Gaza out it’s about damn time
Hamas will never return the rest of the hostages either-dead or alive.
Give them 2 days to return the hostages.
Then just obliterate them.
It’s against their satanic religion to negotiate with “infidels.”
Hamas rejects Witkoff’s claim it is willing to disarmThey're willing, they just don't know it yet.
HAMAS LIES ALL THE TIME
WHY SHOULD WE EXPECT ANYTHING DIFFERENT?
Correct.
Agreed.
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