Happy 4th, remember our past.
Europe and its ideas are a bigger threat..We bought Alaska for a song from Russia ..
Then tell Russia to stop aiming thousands of nukes at our cities, something the EU is currently not doing
The Russia that helped America in the revolutionary war was the Russia of Tsars and Emperors! Not the Russia of Communists.
The Treaty of Friendship and Commerce was actually signed between the United States and France in 1778, not Russia.
Most of your post is BS!!!
Mennonites from Ukraine brought over a hardy strain of wheat to Kansas in the 1880’s that transformed the state into a colossal producer. That led to a boom turning the United States into a major exporter of wheat around the world. During the Cold War, the United States even exported wheat to the Soviet Union.
The sale of Alaska started it on the path to US statehood.
Those are two things I’ll grant that Russia can claim to help shape the United States.
News to me.
The only mention of a Russian loan during the Revolution I could find on the Net was in this thread. Grok says ‘No formal treaties or direct aid (like troops or loans) came from Russia, as Catherine avoided antagonizing Britain outright.
Well said.
When I was in HS (late 1940s), we learned this...
“Russia is not our enemy, in fact, the EU is a bigger threat to the US than Russia is.
Happy 4th, remember our past.”
ROTFLMAO! Remember the past!
In early 1917, Nicholas II was forced to abdicate; he and his family were imprisoned and later executed.
We will bury you!
We can send a big thank you note the current Czar of Russia (and king of France while we are at it)
Oh wait, their counties killed them. Nevermind
I know Ukraine didn’t.😄
“The Russian-American Treaty of 1724”
The Russian Treaty of 1724 was between the Ottoman Empire and the Russian Empire
“In 1724, Russia and the American colonies signed the Treaty of Friendship and Commerce,”
Ridiculous. The colonies signed no such thing.
The Treaty of Friendship and Commerce was signed in 1778 between the US and France.
You propagandists are really slipping.
No such treaty existed or was even possible to have existed given that "the colonies" weren't even a "nation" at all in 1724, but rather part of the British Empire. Only Parliament had the power to enter into treaties.
Russia did sign a treaty with Turkey in 1724 dividing up their interests around the Black Sea and in the Caucasus region, but that's it. This alleged Russian American treaty of 1724 is a whole cloth invention of Russian propagandists who believe Americans are too stupid to know their own history.
Bad joke of a post.
That version of Russia was 250 years ago. And 3 versions of the government ago. What they did then means less than nothing now.
And Putin says they ARE our enemy. He’s been declaring the ENTIRE West (which includes us) the enemy for a long time. If somebody says they are your enemy BELIEVE THEM.
Boy, you guys are pushing this hard today.
Russia is a cancer on the world. Russians care about Russians. No one else.
They should stay within their borders and leave the rest of the world alone.
Trump and Putin’s recent phone call….
” Russian President Vladimir Putin and U.S. President Donald Trump held a phone call Thursday, with the Kremlin describing the conversation as “businesslike and straight-to-the-point,” adding that the two leaders were “on the same wavelength.”
Putin first announced the call during a visit to an exhibition of Russian brands, where he told a vendor that he would “definitely suggest” Trump promote Russian products on the American market. Trump later confirmed the planned conversation on Truth Social.
The call lasted nearly an hour and covered a wide range of topics, according to Kremlin foreign policy adviser Yuri Ushakov. These included ongoing peace talks to end the war in Ukraine, Syria, the recent exchange of airstrikes between Israel and Iran, as well as a proposed “exchange” of films promoting “traditional values.”
Ushakov said Putin also congratulated Trump ahead of U.S. Independence Day on July 4.
*“We noted that Russia played a role in the founding of the American state, including during the War of Independence... and then during the Civil War,” he said in an audio message released by the Kremlin.…”*
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Those with the Russian Derangement Syndrome can hate all they want, but they can not rewrite history. Russia helping the US during both the Revolutionary War and our Civil War is fact.
Perhaps Putin is alluding to Prussia. Prussia was centered around the region of East Prussia, which is now part of modern-day Poland and Russia. General Baron von Steuben was from Prussia. He was born in Madeburg, Prussia, which became part of the Russian Empire in 1795. von Steuben joined the Prussian Army when he was 16. He rose to the rank of Captain and was on the General Staff of Frederick II the Great. After he retired from the Army, he became court Chamberlain for the prince of Hohenzollern-Hechingen. He was made Baron during this time. Rumors claimed he was asked to leave for "unsavoury conduct."
On the advice of a friend, he was told to contact Benjamin Franklin in Paris.
Here's the letter von Steuben sent to General Washington. A footnote accompanies the letter that says he enclosed letters by Ben Franklin and Silas Deane:
Founders Online: To George Washington from Steuben, 6 December 1777
I never heard of Silas Deane, so here too is a biography of him. He's a part of Connecticut history:
The Rise and Fall of Silas Deane, American Patriot
After the war, Congress granted von Steuben a life annuity and New York State deeded him a large parcel of land in appreciation for his wartime contributions. He summered on his land in a two-room log house until his death in November 1794. Although in his will he requested an unmarked grave, in 1804, his remains were transferred to what is now known as the 'Sacred Grove.' An 1870 monument marks Baron von Steuben's final resting place.
Steuben Memorial State Historic Site
The Steuben site is in Remsen, NY, not that far from me. I live in Rome, NY. Rome is the site of Fort Stanwix, a bastion fort. It was originally built by the British during the French & Indian War, named after British General John Stanwix. After the war, the fort had been abandoned, and was reoccupied by colonial troops on July 12, 1776. They reconstructed it and renamed it Fort Schuyler, although everybody continued to call it Fort Stanwix. Colonel Peter Gansevoort took over command of the fort on May 3, 1777. On August 3, 1777, the fort was besieged by The King's 8th Regiment of Foot, Loyalists, and Native Americans, under the command of Brigadier General Barry St. Leger, as part of a three-pronged campaign to divide the American colonies. Gansevoort refused the terms of surrender offered by the British, and the siege commenced.
On August, the Battle of Oriskany was fought a few miles away when an American relief column, led by General Nicholas Herkimer, was ambushed by Tories and their Native American allies. Oriskany is known as the turning point of the Revolutionary War, as British General John Burgoyne’s three-pronged attack of 1777 was an attempt to divide the American colonies by cutting New York in half. The patriots fought in brutal hand-to-hand combat, and despite heavy losses, caused their opponents to retreat. The British forces withdrew through Canada and joined Burgoyne's campaign at Fort Ticonderoga.''
FDR named the land Fort Stanwix originally sat on, an historic monument in 1935. There were businesses occupying the site at that time. In the 60's, Rome political leaders lobbied then Senator Robert F. Kennedy for a fort reconstruction as part of an urban renewal program to help revitalize downtown Rome. Reluctantly, the National Park Service agreed to the reconstruction. Prior to construction beginning, a three year archaeological investigation was conducted. Reconstruction began in 1974. In 1976, the partially constructed fort was open for the country's bi-centennial. The fort was completed in 1978. It is run by the National Park Service.
When I began researching my family history, I discovered that one of my ancestors served in a militia in downstate NY. That militia was part of the group that reconstructed Fort Stanwix after the colonists took it over. More recently, I discovered that my 5th great-grandfather served in the King's Royal Regiment of New York. That regiment was instrumental in the siege of Fort Stanwix, during the expedition of Colonel Barry St. Leger, and they also saw action at the Battle of Oriskany. It was around this time that my 5th great-grandfather joined the Loyalist unit Butler's Rangers, commanded by Loyalist Walter Butler. The regiment is mostly known for its atrocities at the Battle of Wyoming and the Cherry Valley Massacre.
The Battle of Cherry Valley (Massacre) November 10, 1778 at Cherry Valley, New York
That is not true. AI says that there was no treaty of friendship and commerce between the US and Russia in 1778 and the “US” didn’t exist to sign treaties with anyone in 1724.
There are alternative history websites out there that spell out all kinds of things that never happened. Maybe you stumbled on one. That’s a generous and kindly interpretation of what’s going on here
AI is not above making up things itself. It doesn’t know what is “true” and what isn’t.
That is not true. AI says that there was no treaty of friendship and commerce between the US and Russia in 1778 and the “US” didn’t exist to sign treaties with anyone in 1724.
There are alternative history websites out there that spell out all kinds of things that never happened. Maybe you stumbled on one. That’s a generous and kindly interpretation of what’s going on here
AI is not above making up things itself. It doesn’t know what is “true” and what isn’t.