Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

When does a protest become a riot? Experts weigh in amid unrest in LA (barf alert)
MSN ^ | June 9, 2025 | Christopher Cann

Posted on 06/09/2025 6:07:34 PM PDT by DoodleBob

… Brian Higgins, a professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York, said, in most states, including California, the determination of a riot lies in whether multiple people are involved and whether they are committing acts of violence.

"One person is not a riot and neither is a group that is nonviolent," he said. "They can even be breaking the law, like refusing to disperse. It's when you add in the factor of violence that it becomes a riot."

In California, a riot is defined as follows: "Any use of force or violence, disturbing the public peace, or any threat to use force or violence, if accompanied by immediate power of execution, by two or more persons acting together, and without authority of law, is a riot."

Higgins…said while the definition is fairly black-and-white, there are gray areas, especially before and at the point of escalation.

"If you have a group of people, and more show up and eventually someone throws a rock or a can of soda – maybe you could legally say it's a riot but that's probably not the time to do so," he said.

"But once the crowd gets agitated and there's a growing threat of violence that spills out," he said, "that's when you have what can reasonably be called as a riot."

Experts also said while violence is a defining factor in a riot, such violence could be incited by law enforcement.

Ralph Young, a history professor at Temple University in Philadelphia, who has written several books on dissent in the United States, said it is often the case that overzealous law enforcement responses have escalated peaceful protests into scenes of violence and chaos.

"That's a major question. Who provoked the violence?" he said,

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: kindofpregnant; losangeles; mostlypeaceful; peacefulprotest; riots; slightlydead
The Associated Press called for the use of “unrest” in place of “riot” when referring to property destruction caused by rioting.

“Unrest is a vaguer, milder and less emotional term for a condition of angry discontent and protest verging on revolt,” the AP continued.

“Protest and demonstration refer to specific actions such as marches, sit-ins, rallies or other actions meant to register dissent. They can be legal or illegal, organized or spontaneous, peaceful or violent, and involve any number of people,” the AP said. “Revolt and uprising both suggest a broader political dimension or civil upheavals, a sustained period of protests or unrest against powerful groups or governing systems.”

1 posted on 06/09/2025 6:07:34 PM PDT by DoodleBob
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: DoodleBob

Supporting these riots is a huge loser for Democrats”

CNN/CBS:

A poll from CBS News conducted from June 4 to June 6 found that 54 percent of Americans approve of Trump’s plans to deport all of those in the country illegally, Enten continued.

Another 51 percent said they supported agents searching their respective towns for suspected illegal aliens.

Enten also produced three polls that all showed a clear preference for Republicans when it comes to trusting a party to handle immigration.

‘No matter what poll you look at, no matter which way you cut it, the American public is with the Republicans, the American public is with Donald Trump,’ he said.


2 posted on 06/09/2025 6:10:33 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The road is a dangerous place man, you can die out here...or worse. -Johnny Paycheck, 1980, Reno, NV)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DoodleBob

Higgy the “expert”. Great. Just what America DOESN’T need.


3 posted on 06/09/2025 6:12:42 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The DemonRATS have replaced Hitler with "Doc" Jill's "Taco" slur to attack President Trump. Nice!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DoodleBob

attention AP, your ‘experts’ and talking profs:

i look forward to your immanent replacement by AI.


4 posted on 06/09/2025 6:13:25 PM PDT by dadfly
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DoodleBob

[[When does a protest become a riot?]]

when people peacefully wave the American flag in a capitol building after being invited in by police of course

Or- when elderly people pray outside an abortion clinic of course


5 posted on 06/09/2025 6:14:39 PM PDT by Bob434 (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DoodleBob

An “expert” to the media is a moron to those of us who actually can think. Die, media die. And we await the lamentations of their women, pretend women, and robot lover dolls. Die, die, die.


6 posted on 06/09/2025 6:15:56 PM PDT by Da Coyote
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DoodleBob

[[The Associated Press called for the use of “unrest” in place of “riot”]]

AND i suspect they called for the use of the word “Insurrection” when describing the mostly peaceful jan 6 protests


7 posted on 06/09/2025 6:16:13 PM PDT by Bob434 (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: FlingWingFlyer

Here’s a sampling:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/la-unrest-live-updates-crowds-protesting-immigration-raids-rcna211757

L.A. unrest live updates: 700 Marines will deploy as immigration protests continue

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cvg7vxx888kt

Hundreds of Marines sent to LA area to help federal response to immigration protests

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2025/6/9/los-angeles-protests-live-protesters-in-tense-standoff-with-national-guard

Los Angeles protests updates: Clashes as Trump deploys National Guard

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/la-protests-live-downtown-la-declared-unlawful-assembly-area-after-third-day-2025-06-09/

LA Protests Live: Trump and Newsom clash, Marines and National Guard deployed

https://abcnews.go.com/US/live-updates/la-immigration-protests-live-updates-trump-deploys-2000?id=122621279

LA immigration protests live updates: Newsom says Trump deploying 2,000 more National Guard troops


8 posted on 06/09/2025 6:24:19 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: FlingWingFlyer

Yeah I don’t recall Riot experts in my younger days. Well maybe The Clash singing White Riot but that’s about it.


9 posted on 06/09/2025 6:33:37 PM PDT by xp38
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: DoodleBob

I just saw this. Some expensive face cover being delivered and passed out this evening.

https://x.com/i/status/1932247186512719894

Will the bad stuff begin tonight?


10 posted on 06/09/2025 7:04:40 PM PDT by dforest (yE)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: DoodleBob

This reminds me of when we had a recession under Obama - except that they invented a new definition of “recession” in which it was decided by a panel of “experts” rather than being 2 quarters of negative growth - and of course the experts declared these 2 quarters of negative growth didn’t constitute a recession.


11 posted on 06/09/2025 7:21:10 PM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DoodleBob
The mayor of LA has long been a Fidel Castro worshiper.

When does a riot become a political revolution?

12 posted on 06/09/2025 7:29:00 PM PDT by frog in a pot (Can a free society can be crushed by human predators? - "The price of liberty is eternal vigilance.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DoodleBob

There were no fires on J6, but it was “worse than Pearl Harbor.”

There are lots of fires in the LA “mostly peaceful protests.”

Any questions?


13 posted on 06/09/2025 7:41:42 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Democrats are the Party of anger, hate and violence.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DoodleBob
such violence could be incited by law enforcement.

For cripe's sake. Hogwash.

Even in the year later trials for the 1968 Chicago Dem. Nat. Convention they overruled the accusation of "police riot."

14 posted on 06/09/2025 8:22:14 PM PDT by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls. )
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DoodleBob
When does a protest become a riot?

~When they show up in the right clothes.



15 posted on 06/09/2025 8:56:15 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: T.B. Yoits

Throw back a bottle of beer!


16 posted on 06/09/2025 8:56:39 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: DoodleBob

It stops being a protest when criminal acts are committed. What’s happening now isn’t a protest, it’s an attempt to overthrow a policy of the federal government, using violence.


17 posted on 06/10/2025 3:28:37 AM PDT by popdonnelly (All the enormous crimes in history have been committed by governments.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: T.B. Yoits

Cue the low rider tune


18 posted on 06/10/2025 5:29:37 AM PDT by Vaduz
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: DoodleBob

Unscheduled ventilation procedure = Stabbing
The Associated Press

Virgin screan with joy in first sex act = Rape
The Associated Press

on and on and on..........................................


19 posted on 06/10/2025 5:33:48 AM PDT by Vaduz
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DoodleBob

“Experts”


20 posted on 06/10/2025 7:13:57 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is opinion or satire. Or both.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson