Posted on 05/25/2025 4:15:48 AM PDT by hardspunned
Russia has modernized its ballistic missiles used to strike Ukraine, making it more difficult for the Patriot missile defense systems to intercept them, according to the spokesperson for the Ukrainian Air Force, Yuriy Ihnat.
“We and our partners have information that the enemy’s missiles flying a ballistic trajectory - specifically the Iskander-M - have been improved and modernized,” Ihnat said during a national telethon.
He revealed that each missile can now release radar decoys during its final approach to the target, confusing defensive systems.
“It is about shooting down radar traps that each missile can release during the approach to the target,” he said.
Following the upgrades, Patriot missiles - capable of intercepting ballistic targets - may not operate as effectively, Ihnat warned.
(Excerpt) Read more at kyivpost.com ...
In another thread here on FR, it was pointed out the Russians at one point were reduced to fighting with shovels in hand-to-hand combat.
It’s a wide gap between someone fighting with shovels to ballistic missiles throwing off radar decoys to evade US missile defense systems
If you say so moron
Excuse me, but the left ain't got no monopoly on that problem.
It's not the left -- it's US.
That's okay 'cause that there Golden Dome will fix it all.
Can I sell you a bridge?
Yes, that and riding donkeys. Now that the walls are closing in on putz, he's strapping donkeys to missiles to confuse the patriot's targeting system. Yep. Walls closing in...
You’re right, I only mentioned the left because my post came from the Atlantic.
This is why I feared a prolonged war. Russia’s systems and tactics sucked arse. But overtime they will adapt and improve.
But Biden ensured it would be a prolonged war by giving just enough support to keep Ukraine alive. My position the entire time is you either give them what they need to win and win quickly and don’t restrict them to defense operations only. Or you don’t give them anything at all.
The Patriot system is 1969 technology continuously upgraded. It’s improvements have performed remarkably well as the targets are developed/improved as well.
YouCrayne should build their own defense systems if they are not happy with ours.
But we have a lot more wealthy defense contractors than they do and a lot of useless senior bureaucrats getting fine salaries living the life of Riley in the swamp.
Of course, you have no idea what the Russians spend on defense. You probably don’t even know even know how much we waste on it, only not enough. Who’s the moron? The Uke big wig who made the quotes, the Pentagon MIC oligarchs making billions hand over fist, my grandchildren who are having it all put on their tab or dip$hit neocon bitter enders, like you, still out here peddling PU?
It depends whose operating the batteries. Video I watched made it seem like the Patriots were being fired like a machine gun, which I'm not sure is how it was intended. No wonder the US is out of Patriot missiles.
I guess those “Dishwasher chips” have more capability than the Neocons are letting on.
“But Biden ensured it would be a prolonged war by giving just enough support to keep Ukraine alive. My position the entire time is you either give them what they need to win and win quickly and don’t restrict them to defense operations only.”
The thing was, you send in big numbers of strong weapons all at once and the Ukrainian proxy army might advance on the battlefield, but they would be stopped by tacticals, particularly if they made a play for Crimea, which I understand was in their plan. There is NO DOUBT that Russia was not about to let the Neocons take over the Black Sea.
No worries. AI will take care of it soon /S
Several items.
First, anti-chaff algorithms have been around for a long time. The primary solution is to notice that the deployed decoy cannot maintain the velocity of the primary target. There is rapid deceleration because its mass is so much lower.
This radars all have track while scan. When a rapid deceleration of one of the targets within the scan field of view is noticed to have rapid deceleration, the algorithm just ignores it. It’s removed from the population of targets within the scan field of view and no longer tracked.
Conclusion, the reports and the article is probably completely silly. The Patriots are missing because they were never hitting. The velocities are too high and the population within the scan field of view includes a surplus of drones and the system is overwhelmed.
As for dishwasher chips, that was never an issue. The most sophisticated chips that are less than 10 nanometers are not and never were required for defense applications. The Russians have their own semiconductor fabrication foundries had probably cannot build sub 10 nanometer chips and have absolutely no need to do so. What they do build our more than sufficient for the applications in question, and because of the nature of how they do things they are probably superior to what we produce because they’re more focused on function than sophistication
A few of the usual errors above from voice to text
21st Century Spanish Civil War - weapons and tactics testbed for the great powers.
And feeding the MIC.
It’s serving its purpose by the powers that be, imo.
Meatgrinder attacks, check.
Washing Maching Chips, check.
Shovels, check.
One minute Ukraine is announcing they have shot down 345 out of 360 missiles or drones, and then next moment they say they cannot shot them down. Check.
US and NATO Staff commanding the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) from the safety of rear areas in Germany, aka Rammstein. US Generals making direct requisitions via the pentagon for equipment and funding authorizations per the NYT. check.
Keith Starmer goes to Kiev on 16 January 2025 as a part of a Biden-Solidarity move to strike a series of deals with Zelinski (I would say Ukraine but this is legally debatable) securing port rights in Odessa and on the Black Sea and the first Mineral Rights deal, and preferential rights on financial transactions and reconstruction.
Trump’s Mineral Rights deal was in large part about putting Starmer and Zelinski into a no win position which would expose our allies for the opportunists and that they were still working against Trump.
Everything we sent into Ukraine that was from war reserve stocks is carried on pentagon ledgers with two valuations, one is depreciation, and one is for Second Country Sales or when provided as Aid. The products are transferred with additoinal accounting requirements that trigger replacement requisitions for new US inventory, or maintenance packages. The grif around Ukraine was a boon for NATO who rid their warehouses of outdated equipment with near replacement costs for new generation military equipment.
Blackrock was down for 350B in assets in Ukraine; the USG recogized concurrently with Russia’s successful combat deployment of the FABs (these broke the so called stalemate), and approved the first Bitcoin ETFs for the 11 Major largest USG investment partners who made the loans or purchases securing everything of value in Ukrane by the west. Recognizing the NATO defenses built up over 10-years would not hold Russia back in 2024 and the pivot to BTC was a major turning point in the war; this allowed the US to disengage or writeoff 1-2T in assets held by US financial interests in Ukraine; the EUropeans made no such movement in repositioning their markets.
Biden played a double dealing game with Ukraine. On one hand the EU (and individual countries) were econonmic competitiors, rather than partners in trade. We got them to overhaul their NATO assets in the Ukraine swap, selling everything and an economic shot in the arm for the EUropeans... But at the same time forcing sanctions ensured that Baltic countries were at the farthest end of the supply chain, and getting them to stop “public acknowledged energy from Russia” caused immediate disruptions in every EU country. Pensioners in England did with out heat, had 10% haircuts to pensions as an example; in Germany the factories shuttered and workforce went home as the replacement energy provided by the US (LNG) was 3.5 to 4x the cost of the Russian energy making them no longer economic compeitiors.
We held the entire world hostage in many ways over Ukraine. We got them to further harm their economic competitiveness with the USA with now expensive energy. Our sanctions ensured the supply chain began using differnt routes and different companies.
The big trick was that the EU unelected officials only looked at the ledger bottomlines and they did not recognize the problem with the loss of cheap energy while they were making huge profits off vast equipment stocks that were aging in their NATO war reserve. They only saw the money flowing. Now the equipment is dried up and the energy is expensive. Biden is gone. USAID is gone.
Another example of the cost of this war in actual terms is that some sources say a US artillery round is $800 or 1800 from the factory to the gun tube, depending on whose accounting methods or what blackmarket source it came from, but the Russia’s pay $100 to get it from production to firing downrange.
American economy can take a mineral and make 10x profit with in our economy but in second or third world economies it is closer to 4x.
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