Posted on 04/24/2025 7:40:48 PM PDT by Varsity Flight
Background of the behind the scenes takeover by the Jesuits, from the assassination of Abraham Lincoln, Booth, Bismarck through Germany, WW1, WW2, and the Jesuit Bible Biden was sworn in with, and the plan to invade the United States what we're witnessing now.
Trump, as our today struggling “Bismarck”
Also, Georgetown as the center of activity,
and the CIA.
I was recently assured that the Jews caused the confederacy by holding slaves…
SMFH.
These are the same nutjobs who believe the earth is flat.
The website is from some group that believe in the non biblical dispensationalist philosophy
Many people suffered needlessly after being lumped into that one shoe fits all group.
Revelation 2:9 ESV / 6 helpful votes
“‘I know your tribulation and your poverty (but you are rich) and the slander of those who say that they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.
Revelation 3:9 ESV / 5 helpful votes
Behold, I will make those of the synagogue of Satan who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie—behold, I will make them come and bow down before your feet, and they will learn that I have loved you.
“These are the same nutjobs who believe the earth is flat.”
I’ve seen the Chicago skyline from the shores of Indiana..
This has been debunked over and over again.
“Strongly guarded as is the separation between Religion & Govt in the Constitution of the United States the danger of encroachment by Ecclesiastical Bodies, may be illustrated by precedents already furnished in their short history [attempts where religious bodies had already tried to encroach on the government].” [James Madison, Detached Memoranda, 1820]
Dispensationalism is a theological framework that divides salvation history into distinct "dispensations" or periods where God interacts with humanity under different covenants or rules --> most especially the non-Christian separation between Israel and The Church. This is non-Biblical and was not preached by St. Paul.
If you, Jan, actually read St. Paul's letters you will see
Gentiles and Jews are united in ChristPaul very clearly does NOT describe salvation history as divided into distinct dispensations with different rules for salvation. Instead, he emphasizes the universal offer of salvation through faith in Christ (e.g., Romans 3:21-26). His use of the term oikonomia (e.g., Ephesians 3:2, often translated as “dispensation” or “stewardship”) refers to God’s plan or administration of grace through Christ, not to multiple dispensational periods.In Ephesians 2:11-22 Paul describes how Christ’s death reconciles Jews and Gentiles into “one new man,” breaking down the “dividing wall of hostility.” This unity in the Church contradicts dispensationalism’s separation of Israel and the Church as distinct entities with separate divine purposes.
In Galatians 3:28-29 Paul writes that “There is neither Jew nor Greek… for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring, heirs according to the promise.” --> Paul writes about the Church as the fulfillment of God’s promise to Abraham, not as a separate entity from Israel.In Romans 10:4 Paul writes, “Christ is the end [telos, meaning fulfillment or goal] of the law, that everyone who has faith may be justified.” This indicates continuity between the Old and New Covenants, with Christ as the fulfillment of the Law, not a dispensational shift to a new system of salvation.
In Hebrews 8:13 you have By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear. -- the New Covenant in Christ has fulfilled and surpassed it, not because God operates under a new dispensation.
This is apparent in Romans 11:17-24 where Paul uses the olive tree metaphor to describe Gentiles as grafted into the same tree as Israel, not as a separate entity with a distinct divine plan. This undermines dispensationalism’s dualistic view of Israel and the Church.
While Scripture describes covenants (e.g., with Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Christ), these are progressive revelations of God’s single plan, culminating in Christ, not separate dispensations.
The dispensationalist separation of Israel and the Church contradicts passages like Ephesians 2:14-16 and Galatians 3:28, which emphasize unity in Christ. The idea of a future restoration of national Israel with a distinct role apart from the Church fails when read against scripture
Dispensationalism relies on 19th-century reinterpretations of texts like Daniel 9:24-27 to support modernist ideas that deny Christ --> in contrast, Christians as seen for example in St. Augustine's writings, see these prophecies as fulfilled in Christ’s first coming, not as future events tied to a distinct dispensation.
Dispensationalism is a 19th century philosophy created in the same time and region as Mormonism, Millerism (Seventh Day Adventists, Jehovah's witnesses) and Christian scientist s - and like them is false. Dispensationalism was systematized by John Nelson Darby (1800–1882), a Plymouth Brethren leader, in the 1830s. Darby’s teachings, including the separation of Israel and the Church, the pre-tribulation rapture, and distinct dispensations, were novel and not found in prior Christian belief
In contrast the Bible shows the continuity of God’s covenant, with the New Covenant fulfilling the Old.
Furthermore Ephesians 2:14-16 states that Christ “has broken down in his flesh the dividing wall of hostility… to create in himself one new man in place of the two.” Southern Baptists interpret this as the Church fulfilling God’s covenant promises, not as a separate entity from Israel.
Paige Patterson, a SBC theologian emphasizes the Church as the culmination of God’s redemptive plan, rejecting dispensationalist dualism.
Dispensationalism’s dispensational framework is false because it imposes an unbiblical division on salvation history, contradicting the unified redemptive plan affirmed by Southern Baptists.
“Paul was the original dispensationalist. He said so.”
Would you cite me the verse?
There are clear dispensations in the Bible. Noah, Moses, Paul, etc.
I must agree with Cronos that Paul was not a dispensationalist ….. at least not in the modern sense of the term. However I think the confusion here between you two is that dispensationalism is strongly based on much of what Paul taught and his writings did influence the later development of dispensationalism.
Both dispensationalists and covenant theologians look to Paul’s letters for guidance on church doctrine, worship, and Christian living. On the practical level—such as salvation by grace, church leadership, and ethical teachings—there is significant overlap in how both groups apply Paul’s instructions to the life of the church.
The main differences are not in the day-to-day application of Paul’s moral or ecclesiastical instructions, but in the theological framework that shapes how each system understands the broader story of Scripture and the church’s identity. Dispensationalism: Sees the church and Israel as two distinct peoples with different roles and destinies. Covenant Theology: Sees the church as the continuation or fulfillment of Israel, with all believers (Jew and Gentile) united in one people of God. Paul’s teachings are applied to the church as the “new Israel,” inheriting the promises made to God’s people in the Old Testament.
The Roman Catholic Jesuits do not fit directly into either dispensationalism or covenant theology, as both frameworks are rooted in Protestant traditions and debates. Catholic tradition, including that of the Jesuits, emphasizes the unity of God’s plan throughout salvation history, but it does not divide history into dispensations or focus on the same covenants as Protestant covenant theology.
Focusing back to the original purpose of this whole thread about a possible “Jesuit world order”…… Dispensationalism has little to do with it.
It may be true that some critics have claimed that dispensationalism has roots in the writings of a 16th or 17th-century Jesuit theologian, Francisco Ribera , but that cannot be true since modern dispensationalism, as a system, was developed in the 19th century.
Nah…I simply go back to Paul and his understanding of Dispensations.
You are correct in believing in everything Paul said. It is the true WORD of God breathed out to us. I am not arguing that. What I was trying to say in my above post is that Dispensationalism and Covenant Theology are two distinct frameworks for understanding the overarching narrative and structure of the Bible. In that regard (scripture) they overlap.
I am a member of a PCA church (adheres to Covenant Theology), yet I have no problem visiting and enjoying my son’s Baptist Church (Dispensationalist).
The difference lies in one’s interpretation of how God interacts with humanity in different ways…. One way, through different distinct periods of time….. the other through a series of covenants (such as the covenant of works, covenant of grace, and covenant of redemption)…. Resulting in, for instance, difference in whether or not Israel and the Church are viewed as two separate peoples with distinct destinies (Dispensationalism) or there is continuity between Israel and the Church, meaning that all believers (Jewish and Gentile) are part of one people of God, and that the Church inherits the promises made to Israel (Covenant Theology).
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.