Posted on 04/23/2025 9:17:21 AM PDT by hardspunned
Ukrainian President, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, is boasting on the front page of The Wall Street Journal that, “Ukraine will not legally recognize the occupation of Crimea. There’s nothing to talk about here.” This statement is very harmful to the Peace Negotiations with Russia in that Crimea was lost years ago under the auspices of President Barack Hussein Obama, and is not even a point of discussion. Nobody is asking Zelenskyy to recognize Crimea as Russian Territory but, if he wants Crimea, why didn’t they fight for it eleven years ago when it was handed over to Russia without a shot being fired? The area also houses, for many years before “the Obama handover,” major Russian submarine bases. It’s inflammatory statements like Zelenskyy’s that makes it so difficult to settle this War. He has nothing to boast about! The situation for Ukraine is dire — He can have Peace or, he can fight for another three years before losing the whole Country. I have nothing to do with Russia, but have much to do with wanting to save, on average, five thousand Russian and Ukrainian soldiers a week, who are dying for no reason whatsoever. The statement made by Zelenskyy today will do nothing but prolong the “killing field,” and nobody wants that! We are very close to a Deal, but the man with “no cards to play” should now, finally, GET IT DONE. I look forward to being able to help Ukraine, and Russia, get out of this Complete and Total MESS, that would have never started if I were President!
Having signed previous treaties with Putin which he violated, Ukraine wants a security guarantee avoiding future Russian invasions, ie NATO or peacekeeping western troops, both of which are opposed by Putin.
BTTT
I don’t personally like Trump’s negotiating style, but it tends to be effective. He intentionally starts with an utterly ridiculous opening position, then eventually drops back to a position, still advantageous, but closer to reality.
It seems that Zelensky may have read “The Art of the Deal”, too.
The Crimean parliament was literally stolen at gunpoint by Russian bandits in 2014. It’s quite hilarious to see Kremlin Bolsheviks seeking international legitimization for their mafia regime.
The man is a complete charlatan. He wants money. As long as he can prolong the situation he can stuff more in his off shore accounts and other properties abroad. Defending Zelensky is not a viable position.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/4312777/posts
As a thought experiment, I wonder what Trump’s position would be if he was president of Ukraine.
If this deal is not accepted, end all aid and cooperation with Ukraine.
Europe wants war; let them have it. But we wash our hands of the whole stinking affair.
If Zelensky refuses this, he gets what he has coming.
Without ANY real security guarantee from the next Putin invasion, why should Ukraine recognize the annexation of Crimea? So that in the next invasion Ukraine must recognize the annexation of Donbas, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia, etc.
Putin himself has repeatedly made clear that he denies Ukraine's right to exist and is determined to extinguish Ukrainian statehood.
Putin in 2021 posted a 5,000 world essay on why Ukrainian statehood was a historical mistake.
If Ukraine’s people are all dead and they can’t defend their territory, why should they have any territory?
They lost. Get over it.
Ukrainians wants weapons to fight the Russians who are determined to wipe Ukraine of the map.
Then there will be no peace, it’s that simple.
With the best of intentions!
What could possibly go wrong?!
80% of Ukraine is free.
Finland also fought a losing war, the Continuation War in WW2 losing 10% of their land but guaranteeing the independence of the rest of the country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuation_War
It is time to crawl out the ditches and kill every single one of the enemy, or wave to them as they run towards Moscow if they want land back. That is how war works, if you want it, push them off it.
So why can’t Zelensky admit that he lost 20% of the land and get on with it? Does every Ukrainian have to die before he will simply admit the obvious?
We have sunk way too much money into a corrupt hellhole that interfered in our own election and has been a puppet of the Deep State we are trying to weed out of our own nation. If Zelensky can’t bring himself to the indignity of saying that 2+2=4, it’s time to be done with him.
Yup, Putin is determined to extinguish Ukrainian statehood and Ukraine after suffering the brutal invasion will never forgive the Russians.
Z violated the energy ceasefire everyday. Z violated the Easter truce untold times, even regaining territory while the Russians stood by honoring the truce. Z reneged on the Istanbul peace process which would given him the four, now Russian oblasts. The Ukes violated both Minsk accords. The NATO puppets violated the Maidan agreement the day after it was signed. Putin would have to be the chump of the world to enter any agreement with that corrupt globalist quisling, Z.
Russia will end this Globohomo power play on the battlefield. Russia will take what is rightfully its territory to prevent the NATO hegemonists from again threatening the Russian people from their own backyard.
So very tired of this repeated mantra. If Putin’s goal was the full conquest of Ukraine we wouldn’t be having yet another of these delightful conversations on FR right now.
Simple, Ukraine wants a security guarantee (NATO or western troops) which would prevent any future invasion.
Ukraine already signed a treaty with Putin in 2003 recognizing each others borders.
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