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In Berlin, Europe’s elite are very nervous there’s too much freedom of speech
The Hill ^ | 03/22/25 10:30 AM ET | Jonathan Turley, Opinion Contributor

Posted on 03/25/2025 12:17:12 PM PDT by Olog-hai

“A New World Order With European Values.” Emblazoned across banners and signs, those words met the participants at this week’s meeting of the World Forum in Berlin.

Each year, leaders, executives, journalists and academics gather to address the greatest threats facing humanity. This year, there was little doubt about what they view as the current threat: the resurgence of populism and free speech.

In fairness to the Forum, “a New World Order” likely sounds more ominous for some civil libertarians than intended. While the European Union is a transnational government stretching across 27 nations, the organizers were referring to a shift of values away from the United States to Europe.

As one of the few speakers at the forum who was calling for greater protections for free speech, I found it a chilling message. Even putting aside the implications of the New World Order, the idea of building a world on today’s European values is chilling for free speech.

Free speech is in a free fall in Europe, with ever-expanding speech regulations and criminal prosecutions — including for having “toxic ideologies.” […]

There has long been a push for transnational governing systems, and European figures see an opportunity created by the conflict with President Trump. The European Union is the model for such a Pax Europaea or “European peace.”

The problem is that this vision for a new Holy Roman Empire lacks a Charlamagne. More importantly, it lacks public support. …

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; European Union; Foreign Affairs; France; Germany; Government
KEYWORDS: charlemagne; clinton; didnazithatcoming; dissent; europe; europeanvalues; eussr; fourthreich; freespeech; germany; ididnazithatcoming; jonathanturley; nato; newworldorder; nwo; tds; worldforum
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1 posted on 03/25/2025 12:17:12 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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2 posted on 03/25/2025 12:19:33 PM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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“too much freedom of speech” is a declaration of war AFAIC


3 posted on 03/25/2025 12:19:52 PM PDT by Gene Eric
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The message was clear. The new world order would be based on European, not American, values. To rally the faithful to the cause, the organizers called upon two of the patron saints of the global elite: Bill and Hillary Clinton. President Clinton was even given an award as “leader of the century.”

The Clintons were clearly in their element. Speaker after speaker denounced Trump and the rise of what they called “autocrats” and “oligarchs.” The irony was crushing. The European Union is based on the oligarchy of a ruling elite. The World Forum even took time to celebrate billionaires from Bill Gates to George Soros for funding “open societies” and greater transnational powers.

The discussions focused on blunting the rise of far-right parties and stemming the flow of “disinformation” that fosters such dissent. …
So-called “European values” are, according to the EU founding documents, cast in light of “respect for the principles of the Charter of the United Nations”, which was, by the hand of Alger Hiss, based on the 1936 USSR constitution.
4 posted on 03/25/2025 12:20:05 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Gene Eric

That’s correct.

I don’t know how many fans of the Marshall Plan there are on here, but it gave too much power to the founders of the EU; one founder in particular.


5 posted on 03/25/2025 12:21:02 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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If this happens here, THEN we have the right to revolution.

Just reading their crazy ideas for censorship makes me furious.

Bunch of scumbag would be dictators.


6 posted on 03/25/2025 12:29:00 PM PDT by Williams (Thank God for the election of President Trump!)
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Germany’s turned back into the Third Reich.


7 posted on 03/25/2025 12:29:42 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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I remember just after the Brexit vote, some high level, un-elected EU bureaucrat stated: “I cannot believe they (the British) let them vote.”


8 posted on 03/25/2025 12:30:01 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try)
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Bad idea to empower them further, yes?


9 posted on 03/25/2025 12:31:00 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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The shaming should be relentless. The Doxxing should ramp up if the “elites” don’t get a clue.


10 posted on 03/25/2025 12:32:05 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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Oh, of course. Probably said the same about the Irish with respect to the Treaties of Nice and Lisbon too.

With respect to the UK, it used to be that the government there rammed EU “values” down the people’s throats—until the so-called “Brexit” vote that is, which unlike in Ireland the UK populace was not required to re-vote on until they voted the way the EUSSR wanted them to.


11 posted on 03/25/2025 12:34:20 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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'President Clinton was even given an award as “leader of the century.”'

That says it all.

12 posted on 03/25/2025 12:35:16 PM PDT by Savage Beast (There's a Light over the Whole World. I just want everybody to be happy, healthy and well. --DJT)
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"this week’s meeting of the World Forum in Berlin"

What could be a more appropriate venue?

13 posted on 03/25/2025 12:36:52 PM PDT by Savage Beast (There's a Light over the Whole World. I just want everybody to be happy, healthy and well. --DJT)
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bkmk


14 posted on 03/25/2025 12:37:48 PM PDT by sauropod (Make sure Satan has to climb over a lot of Scripture to get to you. John MacArthur Ne supra crepidam)
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"The shaming should be relentless. The Doxxing should ramp up if the “elites” don’t get a clue."

Must be those elites in favor of controlling free speech, were the same ones who enjoyed living under Russian control, behind a wall dividing Berlin for 28 years.

15 posted on 03/25/2025 12:40:45 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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Nope. It wasn’t those kind of people who created the EUSSR in the first place; it was all “Western” Europeans.


16 posted on 03/25/2025 12:43:01 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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Hitler’s Fourth Reich rises!


17 posted on 03/25/2025 12:45:39 PM PDT by Highest Authority (DemonRats are pure EVIL)
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Think they’re ready for their own “defense”, which they’ve been aching to do for decades?


18 posted on 03/25/2025 12:47:32 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Savage Beast

Why do such forums even exist?


19 posted on 03/25/2025 12:47:57 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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"Nope. It wasn’t those kind of people who created the EUSSR in the first place; it was all “Western” Europeans."

I never said they created East Berlin or East Germany. I said they must have enjoyed living in a restrictive environment, and want it to come back.

20 posted on 03/25/2025 12:53:34 PM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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