Fixed it for you. Just look at all those pretty European colonies all over the world map.
Posted on 03/19/2025 7:52:25 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
NATO members Poland, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia said Tuesday they are abandoning the 1997 Ottawa convention treaty outlawing the use of anti-personnel landmines (APL) amid the ongoing conflict between Russia and Ukraine.
The Ottawa convention sought to outlaw APLs, which target humans in explosive blasts and have killed thousands of civilians. The treaty also notes that the minds can cause “unnecessary suffering or superfluous injury.”
“Military threats to NATO Member States bordering Russia and Belarus have significantly increased,” the four countries wrote in a statement.
“In light of this unstable security environment marked by Russia’s aggression and its ongoing threat to the Euro-Atlantic community, it is essential to evaluate all measures to strengthen our deterrence and defense capabilities,” they added.
The four nations have expressed fears about Russian aggression since it invaded Ukraine in 2022. Three of the four were once part of the Soviet Union, while Poland was controlled by a Soviet-bloc government.
President Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin spoke on the phone for hours Tuesday working to secure a peace deal, which the White House has promised will come soon.
Poland, Lithuania and Estonia require approval from Parliament before their agreements to uphold the Ottawa convention can be retracted.
The United States, China, Russia, North Korea, Myanmar, India, Iran and Israel have not signed or ratified the treaty.
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“Military threats to NATO Member States bordering Russia and Belarus have significantly increased,” the four countries wrote in a statement.
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Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia.
Seems smart given russia’s propensity.
I remember being bitched at by self righteous Yurps for many years because the US would not sign this treaty....nevermind that the US only used landmines in the DMZ in South Korea and did not scatter them around liberally where civilians would get hurt and killed by them which was supposed to be the whole point.
So I told them those heavy minefields took the place of tens of thousands of troops we would otherwise need to deploy to South Korea to defend the country. BUT....I would be willing to sign this treaty and get rid of those minefields IF the Yurps would supply the troops to take their place. Then I asked "so....when can we expect tens of thousands of European troops ready to fight and if necessary die alongside our troops in order to defend South Korea?
For some strange reason, none of the self righteous Yurps was ever willing to give me an answer to that.
Apparently, NATO is spinning up to Cluster Bomb Christian Serbian Women and Children again.
Mostly Swamp talk.
People have some vague notion that Russia has oil. And gas.
But they do not know how much.
They completely know and dismiss the reality of refugees all over Europe, burning cars, raping women.
People need to lean back and ask . . . just what do these insignificant countries have that Russia would want? Car burning refugees? Rapists?
It is THAT which folks can not get past. They can’t grasp how worthless those places are.
It’s all about oil and gas. It’s not about anything else.
Land mines? Really? Have they not learned that lesson yet? Land mines cause just as many problems for the defender as the invader, of not more so. Hopefully it is merely symbolic, and they don’t go actually planting the stupid things.
Russia has been invaded by Europe twice in the last 2 centuries.
I’m not sure that you are grasping the Russian mindset. It has always been, and seems to forever be, expansionistic. They want land because it is there. Siberia isn’t exactly a paradise, but they got it and claim it for eternity. Anything that was Russian at some point in recent history, Putin and the Russian traditionalists want reclaimed at some point. And then they’ll want more. They could not care less what resources are available there, or how terrible some of the population might be. It’s the expansion that matters.
I believe that they are only endangering their own citizens far more than preventing a Russian invasion. But let them learn that lesson the hard way I guess. Sadly, I see the children being among the most likely victims of this stupidity.
Poland had been invaded twice by the Soviet Union twice since WWI. The Baltics, at least once.
Poland is our new pretend friend. Israel has competition.
Where is Lady Di when we really need her?
They certainly can.
More worried about a possible Russian invasion than the ongoing Islam invasion.
Pretty useless treaty if you are just going to withdraw from it when it’s in the way.
So you and I both figure it's a place of constant war long before we got involved, so why should we care?
Fixed it for you. Just look at all those pretty European colonies all over the world map.
I can think of 6 times Europe has invaded Russia
Napoleon
Crimean War
WW1
Siberia (Vladivostok) right after WW1
Northern Russia (Archangel) right after WW1
WW2
The US was involved in the 2 times after WW1.
So - it was all just feel-good posturing and woke virtue signaling.
Sanctimonious hypocrites.
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