Posted on 03/05/2025 1:07:43 PM PST by Cronos
Reform UK leader Nigel Farage has torn into Vice President JD Vance's claim that a Franco-British peacekeeping force would be just "20,000 troops from some random country that hasn't fought a war in 30 or 40 years".
Speaking to GB News from today's mass farmer protest in Westminster, Farage said the Vice President was "wrong, wrong, wrong" as he hailed how Britain "did our bit" alongside the US in Afghanistan.
He told the People's Channel: "JD Vance is wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong. For 20 years in Afghanistan, pro-rata, our size against America's, we spent the same amount of money, we put the same number of men and women in, and we suffered the same losses.
"We stood by America all through those 20 years, putting in exactly the same contribution. And alright, they may be six times bigger, but we did our bit. On this one, JD is wrong."
The row erupted after Vance sat down for an interview on Fox News
During the interview, the Vice President said: "The President knows that if you want real US security guarantees, if you want to actually ensure that Vladimir Putin does not invade Ukraine again, the very best security guarantee is to give Americans economic upside in the future of Ukraine.
"That is a way better security guarantee than 20,000 troops from some random country that hasn't fought a war in 30 or 40 years."
...defence spokeswoman Helen Maguire, who served in the army before entering politics, added: "Six of my own regiment, the Royal Military Police, didn't return home from Iraq. This is a sinister attempt to deny that reality. Vance has demeaned his office."
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“That is a way better security guarantee than 20,000 troops from some random country that hasn’t fought a war in 30 or 40 years.”
😂
Pretty sure my local Joint Base could take Britain.
Did Vance actually say this? I had read that this was a false quote.
Vance could have said “has not won a war in thirty or forty years”.
Lol.
The bottom line is that he spoke the truth. The Brits could maybe deploy 20,000 men, 25 tanks, and they have ammo for less than a week.
They can do nothing to make a difference. And they only reason they got involved in Afghanistan was that they are wiling to kill a few enlisted guys to get in on the financial spoils, and get their high officers some joint staff jobs. And they also get to help moderate us and they get a voice.
But it wasn’t out of solidarity to America. Hell, Russia did way more than the UK did for us in the Afghan war.
25 tanks at most in ready status.
Vance’s outbursts and indirect insults against America’s greatest allies is sad to see. He doesn’t know history. Proof: he called Trump a Nazi (!) not that long ago… Who could ever forget that…
He knows how to insult people, but what good does that bring to America?
I think Nigel is afraid that the Britts will unify behind Labour as they are facing the common enemy: the US under Trump, so he want to show his independence.
Like it or not, Nigel just like Poliviee in Canada, is in defensive if their opponents use Trump as a weapon: Will you govern like Trump? Will you allow our country be dictated by Trump?
MI6 was a part of the Russian collusion hoax. Starmer sent operatives to the USA to interfere in the last presidential election. There’s the crackdown on free speech.
The UK is not our friend.
and somehow we got sucked into Vietnam because France couldn’t hold their colonial indochina
Well, all their expertise in static trench warfare is rather dated. Not sure they’d have much to bring to the table...
pissing contests
starmer already said it
eu cant do it without US support
Farage is trying to boost his party’s / his electoral future by distancing himself from Pres. Trump.
That is all BS. They haven’t paid what America has paid,monetary or with lives ,through out history. What a joke the EU and the UK have become.
More unhelpful rhetoric from politician Vance.
Here’s the full quote from Vance that he sent in a private Facebook message to his old Yale roommate:
“I go back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical asshole like Nixon who wouldn’t be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he’s America’s Hitler.
I think he was talking about France.
He’s making JDs point. Yes they were in Afghanistan and Iraq, but as backup to us, not on their own.
Vance -2022 “I regret being wrong about the guy,” Vance said about Trump several days later on the campaign trail. “I think he was a good president, I think he made a lot of good decisions for people, and I think he took a lot of flak.” He later added: “He’s the best president of my lifetime.”
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