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California officials push to cut energy credits to households with rooftop solar panels
Los Angeles Times ^ | Feb. 24, 2025 3 AM PT | Melody Petersen

Posted on 02/24/2025 11:06:46 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

California officials are pressing for further cuts to the electric bill credits people with rooftop solar panels can earn, in a move that would align the state with its for-profit utilities at the expense of consumers who invested thousands of dollars to power their homes with renewable energy.

Southern California Edison, Pacific Gas & Electric and San Diego Gas & Electric have long complained about the financial credits to households that generate more solar energy than they can use — credits that can keep rising electricity costs in check for those with panels.

But the energy generated by rooftop solar also puts a dent in utility sales of electricity, and the big utility companies successfully pressed the state Public Utilities Commission in 2022 to reduce the value of the billing credits for panels installed after April 15, 2023.

Now, the credits for consumers who installed panels before that date are becoming a target.

The commission staff, with the support of its consumer-focused Public Advocates Office, is making a case for cutting credits to those who installed rooftop panels before April 2023. Those panel owners are paid the retail rate for the excess electricity they send to the grid, while later adopters are paid a fraction of that price.

Among the ideas floated in a report by commission staff last week is to limit the number of...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: california; credits; solar
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Smells like bait-and-switch.
1 posted on 02/24/2025 11:06:46 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Oh gee, who could have seen this coming?

Oh wait EVERYONE with at least to functional brain cells.


2 posted on 02/24/2025 11:08:40 AM PST by Skwor
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Smells like stupid leftists. Both the government and their voters.


3 posted on 02/24/2025 11:09:07 AM PST by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I sat with a “salesman” for half an hour...in the laundromat. When he told me how long it would take to re-coop my money, I laughed right in his face.


4 posted on 02/24/2025 11:09:15 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

The home rooftop panels can generate the the ‘green’ solar electricity to recharge cars parked at daytime workplaces.


5 posted on 02/24/2025 11:10:21 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

No one saw this coming.../s


6 posted on 02/24/2025 11:13:06 AM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Polls are designed to sell more ads & polls only. If it's not a horse race the money dries up.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

So, do excessive roof panels actually add power to the grid?

The article says only that solar use “puts a dent in utility sales of electricity”, but I would expect them to lower costs, as well, if they work.


7 posted on 02/24/2025 11:13:51 AM PST by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I heard that personal solar panels in California are required to be hooked up to the grid. Perhaps they should remove this requirement.


8 posted on 02/24/2025 11:14:06 AM PST by Tai_Chung
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Just like the solar panel craze of the 70s these too will rot away when ultimately they won’t be cost effective to maintain and replace. I hope I’m wrong because I see them everywhere.


9 posted on 02/24/2025 11:16:00 AM PST by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: Sacajaweau

Soooo, how long?


10 posted on 02/24/2025 11:18:04 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to says it.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Ask your homeowner’s insurance agent how much more it will cost to insure your home with solar panels... if they will insure you.

Another classic bait and switch by the environmentalists who also happen to dominate and run almost every single state public utility board.

Ask yourself, after all the energy star rated appliances, after switching to all LED lights, after all that extra home insulation, and after all the wind and solar farms why are energy prices still sky high?

Hint: It’s a green energy scam to limit your choices and to fleece as much money from you in the process.


11 posted on 02/24/2025 11:18:44 AM PST by Obadiah
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State officials say rooftop solar customers don’t contribute their fair share of costs to maintain the power grid,

Ska-rew the "power grid"!

They should buy some batteries and tell the "grid" to go pound sand.

12 posted on 02/24/2025 11:20:27 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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The article says only that solar use “puts a dent in utility sales of electricity”, but I would expect them to lower costs, as well, if they work.

The intermittent nature of sunlight means that "fossil fuel" generators have to remain running even while the solar panels are producing electricity. You don't just turn power plants off and on with the flip of a switch.

The same issue applies to wind turbines.

https://www.law.utoronto.ca/blog/faculty/wind-power-complete-disaster

13 posted on 02/24/2025 11:21:04 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It’s not credits. It’s being compensated for excess electricity produced by your solar panels. See, my solar panels are connected to the utility which absorbs all of the electricity produced. They then send me whatever electricity my home needs to power all of the devices and machinery therein. If I don’t produce enough to cover my demand, they charge me for the excess need. If my panels produce more than my demand they pay me for the extra at the same price as they buy their electricity from outside the state.

I would rather have an isolated system that would charge some batteries with my surplus production. They would not allow me to do that. It is worth noting that they pay us for the electricity at a price that is lower than what we pay them. For that reason we deliberately underbuilt our system so that we would always be a net consumer of a nominal amount each day. Combine this with the fact that they have a minimum connection charge for each month to cover the cost of billing us and tracking our usage and also for maintaining the infrastructure.


14 posted on 02/24/2025 11:26:57 AM PST by webheart (Kohms is what I call commies. They are not liberal or progressive. Eed Plebnista. )
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To: Puppage
7-10 years...but I'm betting that's not reality.

We trade up on a house about every 7 years.

About selling...I'm betting it cuts down the market.

15 posted on 02/24/2025 11:30:02 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

We are in a drought. We have to cut water usage. Get rid of lawns and plant desert plants instead.

Sorry, but we’re going to have to raise your water bill. Usage is down so much, we have no choice.


16 posted on 02/24/2025 11:33:37 AM PST by hanamizu ( )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“”But as more people have been motivated to install the panels””

Motivated? MOTIVATED??

Kalifornia has mandated that any new construction must have solar power installed. When someone purchases a home, the $$$ of the solar power system is not included in the advertised home price.

“”I heard that personal solar panels in California are required to be hooked up to the grid.””

Kalifornia has also mandated that all EVs have bi-directional charging systems. In other words, after you charge your EV, the State can take some (all?) of that battery power if they ‘feel the need.’

Back when the Prius was newer, Kalifornia announced that if you drove the politically-correct Prius, you could use the carpool lanes, even though you were driving alone. A few years later, they rescinded that ‘permission.’ I imagine all of the Prius owners who only purchased it to be able to get back and forth more easily were not all that happy. Oh, Well.


17 posted on 02/24/2025 11:33:37 AM PST by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

18 posted on 02/24/2025 11:37:13 AM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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What a con job...


19 posted on 02/24/2025 11:41:24 AM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; Skwor; Sicon; Sacajaweau; shanover
Yep. I detect the same smell.

Never seen a discussion about the lifetime cost for the electricity generated. Therefore, I will assume that you would be better off just buying from the utility. Right now, I predict there will be a special charge for disposing of worn-out solar panels.

20 posted on 02/24/2025 11:42:11 AM PST by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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