"Jane - fix this crazy thing!"
Posted on 02/16/2025 2:19:06 PM PST by khelus
Jobs shipped overseas while U.S. workers are told to 'learn to code'
For years, American workers have been told they just need to "learn to code," "work harder," or "accept the realities of globalization." Meanwhile, their jobs have been quietly shipped overseas or handed to an army of imported workers on visas about which most Americans have never even heard.
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
Both sides of the aisle have been comfortable with replacing Americans with legal and illegal aliens.
Learn code? AI is taking over that career. They need to learn to flip hamburgers. That is, until that’s taken over by robots or outlawed by HHS.
AI writes the code now.
I find it ironic Obama told people to code...and now those jobs are on the fast tracked to be replaced by AI.
“Learn to code” is becoming an euphemism for “shut up and sit back while we import workers or send jobs abroad”.
World Net Daily is still in business?
Re: “Learn to code” is becoming an euphemism for “shut up and sit back while we import workers or send jobs abroad”.
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Amen
Spot on:
‘This is not “free market” capitalism. This is corporate feudalism, where companies hold all the power and American workers are nothing more than disposable assets.’
Local Facebook groups include a lot of DoorDash delivery people, all trying to make a living delivering meals. The only missing ingredient is a large enough customer base of local people who are willing to pay $20 for a $10 burger.
Since lots of folks in this thread are talking about AI coding I figure I should chime in with a story from the salt mines. A few weeks ago I had a “Busy work” code assignment, and having recognized it as such I decided to use AIs to do it. To learn how AI generated code, and improve my “prompting”, as if AI DOES learn to code, you’ll have to learn how to ask it for what you want.
Anyway, I used both Google’s Gemini, and Microsoft’s CoPilot. I explained what I wanted, and they both generated the framework code for the project. The way it worked was the AI would give me code, I would run it, and send the results to the AI, which would then make changes, and we’d try again. Gemini was BY FAR the worst. There were times where it was like “Who’s on first?”. I would send the debug output, and the changes would make no difference. I would send the output, it would recommend the same code, lather, rinse, repeat. After the 5th round of this, I just stopped trying to use it. CoPilot only from here on. CoPilot would occasionally “lose its place”, and send a bunch of unassociated code. I had to recognize this, and remind it that we were working on something, and that this code didn’t seem to FIT what we were doing. The “Deep Think” option made things better, but still trying to hit a moving target. (The code was using OCR to parse text from a set of PDFs).
It would write code to parse the 1st one. Then the 2nd one wouldn’t work. I’d point out the problems, and it would make the 2nd one work while breaking the 1st one. I would point this out, and it would move along USUALLY. There was a point where it was trying to parse text from a very simple page, and instead of using positional cues, or anything else, it simple did a “If this text is THE EXPECTED VALUE, then return THE EXPECTED VALUE”. Which would work on PDF #2, but NONE of the others. It was always the same. Fix 1, break 5. It had the option to send it the PDFs, and let it see the text, which I did, but that didn’t seem to help.
The project ended a few days ago when someone discovered an online service that had already parsed all these PDFs, and the text was there and searchable. What I KNEW would happen, and is the reason I considered this “Busy work”.
So, long story short, I was NEVER able to get it to produce fully working code after 2 weeks of 8 hours a day working with it.
So much for AI replacing programmers any time soon.
And just because the code “works”, how do you know it’s secure?
Correct.
I see those posts too. I cannot believe there are so many supposedly too busy to cook people out there. The reality is there’s not. There are tons of lazy and unprepared people out there who would rather go into debt than to plan ahead and put a little extra effort in.
Thanks for the example of how AI is not magic. A useful tool in some instances but not magic replace all.
Plus AI is a major energy hog
"Jane - fix this crazy thing!"
Excellent article. Yes, both sides play the game. We Americans are caught in the middle.
They send jobs overseas and bring foreign workers here.
So, what can we do?
When we voted for Trump, we voted for more jobs, but now he’s backed the idea of more H-1B visas, too.
For sure! That’s something that I contend to anyone who talks about AI replacing programmers. “How many non-obvious bugs have you ever seen? Ever debugged a cache coherency issue?”
Reading ‘X,’ there are signs of increased H1B visa enfocement by CBP. Also, the 48 month H1B renewal window has been reduced back to 12 months,
https://x.com/KumarExclusive/status/1891307365518967078
The AI sites like GROK https://x.com/i/grok will output something different each time using the same text
Start with: image of
It will output 4 different images.
I didn’t test it since I don’t have an X account.
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