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Endgame in Ukraine: How the war could end in 2025!
X ^ | 01/02/2025 | Lord Bebo

Posted on 01/02/2025 3:41:26 AM PST by SmokingJoe

BBC is calculating options for Kyiv and admit that the only question is how much territory Ukraine will lose.

"In eastern Ukraine, Moscow's war machine is steadily advancing kilometer by kilometer across the vast fields of Donbas. Russia is gaining momentum faster than at any time since February 2022. Ukraine appears to be losing.”

- “There is a lot of talk about negotiations, but this is an illusion,” said Mykhailo Podolyak, an adviser to the head of President Zelensky’s office.

“No negotiation process can take place because Russia has not been forced to pay a high enough price for this war.”

- With Trump-led peace talks on the horizon and Ukraine losing ground on the battlefield, the international debate is aimed at strengthening Kyiv's shaky position.

(Excerpt) Read more at x.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: barfmaximus; ehpodolyak; killkillkillforpeace; maximumukieclowns; mic; mykhailopodolyak; putin; shortbusmaximus; thejokeisyoubro; thejokemaximus; thejokesonyoubro; ukraine; welfarewar; zeeperbert; zeepers; zeepersindespair
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1 posted on 01/02/2025 3:41:26 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe
"No negotiation process can take place because Russia has not been forced to pay a high enough price for this war."
should read, we haven't gotten all the US dollars possible yet,the Big Guy needs his ten percent.
2 posted on 01/02/2025 4:02:36 AM PST by Waverunner
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Your post has been up for more than 20 minutes and you haven’t been over run by our Nazi Storm Troopers, aka neocons, aka zeepers. There may be something like contract renewal negotiations taking place for the new year. A smart propagandist would have set the new contract pricing before the end of the old year. dummies


3 posted on 01/02/2025 4:09:23 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust! Long live the Republic.)
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To: BlackbirdSST

Well, the GEC was shut down, what, 12/23/24?

Maybe there was something involved there. /shiny side out


4 posted on 01/02/2025 4:15:11 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Day's of Lot; They id Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: BlackbirdSST

Folks who use the term Zeeper are at best an ignorant lot of Band Wagon ridersr


5 posted on 01/02/2025 4:19:54 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Where is ZORRO when California so desperately needs him?)
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To: bert

Zeeper!

Zeeper, Zeeper Bo Beeper Bonana fanna fo Feeper

Fee fy mo Meeper, Zeeper!


6 posted on 01/02/2025 4:26:17 AM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX)
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To: SaveFerris

I just checked and marcus hasn’t posted anything as of yet. He is usually spamming by 0500 central time.


7 posted on 01/02/2025 4:27:18 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust! Long live the Republic.)
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To: SmokingJoe

Ukraine’s borders after peace negotiations will look very similar to what could have been achieved prior to Russia’s invasion.

But had the West negotiated peace, then we would not have spent hundreds of billions that enriched politicians and connected people...nor would we have destroyed the infrastructure of Ukraine that now requires lucrative contracts to rebuild....nor would we have hundreds of thousands of dead men and women increasing the need for migrants to take their place.


8 posted on 01/02/2025 4:29:53 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (This is the end of the Republic....because we could not keep it.)
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To: bert
Folks who use the term Zeeper are at best an ignorant lot of Band Wagon ridersr

Hush zeeper!

9 posted on 01/02/2025 4:30:13 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust! Long live the Republic.)
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To: SmokingJoe

The Russians have no interest in a ceasefire. As one front line soldier said, “too many people want revenge” to stop the war. There’s a good chance that even with a CF the sniping and droning would continue.

The Russians will continue the war until Ukraine is no longer a threat militarily, with a neutral government and never in NATO.

It’s now a matter of national pride for Russia.


10 posted on 01/02/2025 4:49:52 AM PST by Not_Who_U_Think (`-)
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To: SmokingJoe

I would cry at all if the Spetsnaz snatched up Zelensky.


11 posted on 01/02/2025 5:03:48 AM PST by redfreedom (May God save us from what the Democrats do in the name of good.)
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To: House Atreides

Shirley Ellis! LOL. That was a great post.


12 posted on 01/02/2025 5:06:57 AM PST by redfreedom (May God save us from what the Democrats do in the name of good.)
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To: SmokingJoe
--- "BBC is calculating options for Kyiv...."

Foretelling the future seems quite the specialty of the legacy media these days. Calculate options for Kyiv. Calculate the world's temperature in ten years or a century. Calculate, calculate, calculate.

But never count the massive influx of Muslims into Britain, and refrain from calculating a motive for a knife attack or gang rape, Rotherham style. And never, ever calculate the costs for those old BBC personalities who were involved in pedophilia. There are some things the BBC simply cannot calculate.

13 posted on 01/02/2025 5:06:58 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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>>  "Folks who use the term Zeeper are at best an ignorant lot of Band Wagon ridersr"  <<

Oh look, the little, big mouth zeeper bert who calls FReepers.....
"Freeper Russo Iranian terror supporters"

And also claims.....
FReepers (American's) who don't support his corrupt Ukraine "have committed treason."

....is back and mouthing off again.
Take you hypocritical BS and shove it up your stinky Zelensky, bertie.
14 posted on 01/02/2025 5:13:10 AM PST by ANKE69 (✌️🇺🇲 Let's MAGA)
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To: BlackbirdSST

Our own Govt is paying Ukie Propaganda Influencers.
And where does one think these Infuencers are deployed to work”
Conservative Social Media and Websites like FR.
That’s where!
No point in deploying them to Democrat Social Media and Websites
because ALL these RAT SITES are YouCrayne Flag Waving Supporters already.


15 posted on 01/02/2025 6:03:49 AM PST by tennmountainman ( (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023 DITTO)
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To: bert

You are a Paid Ukie Propaganda Influencer. Just shut up.


16 posted on 01/02/2025 6:09:34 AM PST by tennmountainman ( (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023 DITTO)
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To: Not_Who_U_Think
The Russians will continue the war until Ukraine is no longer a threat militarily, with a neutral government and never in NATO.

Ukraine was never a threat militarily and was not going to be a member of NATO any time soon, if ever. Zelensky offered neutrality and no NATO but Russia refused. This has never been about NATO expansion or threat to Russia. Rather, Putin wanted to put the old band together, bringing Ukraine back under Russian rule. He has said as much himself. Take him at his word.

17 posted on 01/02/2025 6:09:41 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: bert

GFY bert - you and all your neocon ZEEPER clown-friends are done.

Besides robbing America’s children, you lost your $**thole war along with your reputations.

Maybe y’all can just go die now and leave the world in peace... thanks.


18 posted on 01/02/2025 6:15:31 AM PST by AAABEST (That time Washington DC became a corrupted, existential threat to us all...)
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To: BlackbirdSST; SaveFerris; bert; House Atreides
BlackbirdSST: "Your post has been up for more than 20 minutes and you haven’t been over run by our Nazi Storm Troopers, aka neocons, aka zeepers."

Russians themselves are proud of their Z-forces and use the symbol on many occasions, including terms like:

  1. Z-patriots
  2. Storm-Z & Storm-V
  3. Z-brigade
  4. Operation Z
  5. Z-units
So, while Russia's "Z" is the source for words like Ruzzia and RuZZia, nevertheless, Russians themselves revere their "Z".

This is in Khabarovsk, flash mob of Young Guards of Russia stand in Z-formation:

In St. Petersburg, Russia, 2022, Z symbol war advertisement:

In Yekaterinburg, Russia, a Z war memorial with honor guard:

But in the world of American pro-Russian propaganda, no good Russian symbol can go unappropriated to be mirror-imaged back against Russia's enemies and, hence, we see on these threads the insult word, "Zeepers", referring not to pro-Russians, but pro-Ukrainians!

As for your "Storm Trooper Nazis", those also are Russians:

Russian neo-Nazis in St. Petersburg:

RVC, Rusich & RIL -- Russian neo-Nazi battalions fighting in Ukraine:


19 posted on 01/02/2025 6:37:50 AM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: AAABEST; bert
When reading these threads I'm always reminded about a Russian joke.

If a law was passed to make rectal examinations mandatory on Saturdays;

France would immediately have a revolution.
The United Kingdom would, in a week, have a new Parliament.

The Russians would begin queueing Friday night to get a start on the weekend.

The Pro-Russia faction on this site would fall in the latter category, for whatever it was Russia promised, even an end to 'global-homo'.

But that wouldn't make the gay or anything.

20 posted on 01/02/2025 6:47:31 AM PST by Brellium (The environment is of upmost importance, without trees where will we hang Moscovites?)
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