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The Numbers are in: Thousands of Salmon Return Home to the Klamath
CalTrout News ^ | 12/20/2024

Posted on 12/22/2024 9:43:44 AM PST by cuz1961

... From October 17 through October 29, 2024, during the fall-run Chinook salmon migration, the data suggest that more than six thousand fish have passed the former Iron Gate Dam site and migrating into the newly re-opened habitats. These fish were captured by our team’s SONAR camera which is installed at the former dam site.

How does SONAR work? The camera uses sound waves to generate movie-like imagery of passing fish on a continuous basis. Our team of scientists analyzes the camera’s recordings considering several factors including fish size and time of movement to discern that most of these are likely Chinook salmon or steelhead! This SONAR camera provided the first evidence of fish migrating into newly reopened habitat just days after dam removal construction wrapped up. When we break down the data from October 17 to October 29 a bit further, we estimate that between 221 and 588 fish migrated through each day and 98% of these fish were greater than 20 inches long! This data is preliminary and subject to change. ...

(Excerpt) Read more at caltrout.org ...


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KEYWORDS: damnlies; dams; klamath; lies
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Find the weasel words that shape the urinalist headline.

" the data suggest that "....

.. ..why suggest ?

..if it was a fact ?

. facts arent suggestions .. and suggestions arent facts, just mho.

and again.....

"we break down the data from October 17 to October 29 a bit further, we estimate "

they counted 12 days , in how many months ?

to come up with , an estimate ?

with all the high tech why not give us ALL the numbers , the whole count ?

why are they estimating at all ?

imho its cuz they are ecocommie weasels doing the weasel dance.

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1 posted on 12/22/2024 9:43:44 AM PST by cuz1961
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To: cuz1961

How many gigawatts of baseload power were sacrificed for a few fish?


2 posted on 12/22/2024 9:47:53 AM PST by BobL
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To: BobL

more than six thousand fish have passed the former Iron Gate Dam site


and what were the statistics before it was removed?

I am not seeing a comparison?


3 posted on 12/22/2024 9:49:28 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are not longer being issued, but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere)
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To: cuz1961

Better get used to it. They are going to use this data to force further “rewilding” of large portions of the Pacific Northwest.


4 posted on 12/22/2024 9:50:26 AM PST by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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To: cuz1961

I wonder if there’s any habitat capable of supporting their redds. (nests). If they silt over, the eggs will die.


5 posted on 12/22/2024 9:50:59 AM PST by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: cuz1961

I think it sounds like good news.
¡Viva salmon!


6 posted on 12/22/2024 9:52:27 AM PST by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: Valpal1
force further “rewilding” of large portions of the Pacific Northwest.

Except, of course for a few guarded, gated mansions here and there, I'll bet.

7 posted on 12/22/2024 9:53:31 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America.)
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To: cuz1961
"we break down the data from October 17 to October 29 a bit further, we estimate "

they counted 12 days , in how many months ?

Looks like you answered it yourself. There will be two distinct Chinook Salmon runs...spring and fall.

8 posted on 12/22/2024 9:56:51 AM PST by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: cuz1961

With the dams gone I believe the salmon will come back. My worries are over the loss of flood protections. I hope part of the effort to remove the dams was to also move existing residents out of the old/new flood zones. I believe the next big Pacific storm in that area will cause extensive damage to infrastructure and deaths if this was not done.


9 posted on 12/22/2024 9:59:07 AM PST by wildcard_redneck
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To: cuz1961

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10 posted on 12/22/2024 10:14:45 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: wildcard_redneck

How much farmland was destroyed. I suppose we can eat kelp and flies.


11 posted on 12/22/2024 10:15:35 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: wildcard_redneck
come back ?

there are huge ocean going fishing/packing factory ships off the west coast hoovering up the fish

so if there are more fish
the CCP will be getting them

the tribes got suckered

its a sad thing.
being of Cherokee decent im familiar with inter tribal bs.

sometimes the smart segment loses the struggle and ends up on , as my Choctaw ancestors called, the long walk.

and my Cherokee ancestors called the trail of tears.

12 posted on 12/22/2024 10:17:23 AM PST by cuz1961 (Isaiah 53:3)
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To: Sacajaweau

Any irrigation canals supplied by those removed dams are kaput and any farms they serviced will. It be growing much food.


13 posted on 12/22/2024 10:18:51 AM PST by wildcard_redneck
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To: BobL
That's what really bugs me. We lost four lakes used for recreation, flood control, and power generation. These articles only consider the benefits to the fish and Indians.

DamCapacity (MW)Annual Capacity (MWh)Annual Production (MWh)Capacity Factor
JC Boyle98858,480329,00038%
COPCO 120106,000106,000100%
COPCO 227135,000135,000100%
Iron Gate18116,000116,000100%
Total 1,215,480686,00056%

SOURCE: Klamath River Renewal Project

The average U.S. home uses 10,500 kWh per year. So, based on the reported power production for the dams, 686,000 MWh/year / 10,500 kWh/year = 65,000 homes lost power.

Note that the odd data above -- three of the four dams were producing at 100% capacity year-round. The real world has reduced water flows and maintenance outages, so nothing hits 100% year-round. I didn't look very hard to find the actual production from the dams.

Of course, if those 65,000 homes were all charging EVs, then we'd really have some serious power shortages. But the greeniacs know that EV power comes from magical unicorns, so no actual EV charging capability was lost.

14 posted on 12/22/2024 10:19:31 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (Marxism is a politics for the ugly, unwanted, uneducated, unhealthy, and insane.)
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To: Carriage Hill
worked for me Klamath-Chinook-by-MW-1100x578 3-5 .
15 posted on 12/22/2024 10:19:40 AM PST by cuz1961 (Isaiah 53:3)
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To: cuz1961

I agree, the overfishing of the oceans will impact the potential recovery of the salmon runs.


16 posted on 12/22/2024 10:20:49 AM PST by wildcard_redneck
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To: cuz1961

Self serving gaslighting.


17 posted on 12/22/2024 10:27:56 AM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how they. control you. )
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To: cuz1961; AuntB

I hate to open wounds, but you might want a personal view of the effects of dam removal. Ask AuntB.


18 posted on 12/22/2024 10:42:40 AM PST by sasquatch (Do NOT forget Ashli Babbit! c/o piytar)
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To: wildcard_redneck

Loss of flood protection, loss of impounded water that the state could use, and cheated people who lived on the lake out of the value of their property. Left a scar of silt where the lakes were.

Green crap run wild.


19 posted on 12/22/2024 10:46:06 AM PST by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI..)
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To: wildcard_redneck
next big Pacific storm in that area will cause extensive damage to infrastructure and deaths

You gotta break a few roe.

20 posted on 12/22/2024 10:47:23 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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