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Why Zelensky’s refusal to conscript more men has torpedoed his relationship with Washington
Yahoo - The Telegraph ^ | December 10, 2024 | Joe Barnes

Posted on 12/10/2024 3:41:55 PM PST by Navy Patriot

Volodymyr Zelensky may have just called last orders on his relationship with Joe Biden in one of the most open assaults on the outgoing president to date.

There have been plenty of rows between the two leaders during almost three years of conflict, but the argument that began to unfold last week may be the one to end them all.

In recent weeks, US officials have been quietly urging their Ukrainian counterparts to conscript men as young as 18 to be sent to the front line in the war against Russia’s full-scale invasion.

Washington is arguing that manpower shortages are reaching a critical stage, with Russia making steady gains in eastern Ukraine and the possibility that Donald Trump could withdraw military support for Kyiv when he takes office in January. ‘There have to be people on the front lines’

Those warnings became public when Antony Blinken, the secretary of state, arrived in Brussels for a meeting with Nato foreign ministers.

“Even with the money, even with the munitions, there have to be people on the front lines to deal with the Russian aggression,” he told reporters.

“But, for example, getting younger people into the fight, we think, many of us think, is necessary. Right now, 18- to 25-year-olds are not in the fight,” he later added in an interview with Reuters.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: continuousescalation; escalation; killkillkillforpeace; mic; slaviccivilwar; tothelastukrainian; ukraine; welfarewar; zeepersdespondent; zelensky; zelenskyqs
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GloboHomo Grifter Zelensky wants everyone else's money and everyone else's kids dying to enforce Ukraine Nazi Piracy.

He's the Perfect Globalist.

1 posted on 12/10/2024 3:41:55 PM PST by Navy Patriot
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“Washington is arguing that manpower shortages are reaching a critical stage, with Russia making steady gains in eastern Ukraine and the possibility that Donald Trump could withdraw military support for Kyiv when he takes office in January. ‘There have to be people on the front lines’”

The Europeans sound ready to send their boys into the MEAT GRINDER, how about they STEP IT UP, for once - rather than DEMANDING that Ukraine lose what few people are left from that generation.


2 posted on 12/10/2024 3:46:23 PM PST by BobL
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To: Navy Patriot

Before anything happens concerning peace proposals, this little bastard HAS TO GO.


3 posted on 12/10/2024 3:47:47 PM PST by crz
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To: Navy Patriot

Blinken, what a great guy, no better than a concentration camp guard


4 posted on 12/10/2024 3:49:12 PM PST by Third Person
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To: Navy Patriot

Round up the illegal aliens in our country, and give them a choice: Either convince their home country to accept them, or else they’ll be sent to Ukraine...


5 posted on 12/10/2024 3:51:35 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: Yo-Yo

I Like That Idea!


6 posted on 12/10/2024 3:53:27 PM PST by Navy Patriot (I Voted For President Trump, Celebrate Recivilization!)
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To: Navy Patriot

The western politicians taking bribes to the Ukrainians.
“YOU are not doing enough! Send in more people to the front lines!”

“650,000 dead Ukrainians, 1.2 million permanently injured and disabled, 8.5 million displaced
https://thelibertydaily.com/traitor-joe-is-desperately-trying-stop-ukraines-front/


7 posted on 12/10/2024 3:53:52 PM PST by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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To: Navy Patriot

Zelensky has been conscripting boys 15 years of age and that was a long time ago. The reason he’s probably not conscripting now is those still alive are the sons of Ukrainian powerbrokers or people Zelensky fears.

I did see some coverage claiming he wants American ‘peacekeepers’ - boots on the (Ukrainian) ground.

Meanwhile, I see Alexander Mercouris has titled his latest video “Syria Chaos; Erdogan Alarmed; Israel Seizes Territory; Naryshkin: Russia On Brink of Ukraine Victory “ but I haven’t watched it yet.


8 posted on 12/10/2024 3:55:37 PM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: canuck_conservative

Ping, you’re needed here to polish Zelensky’s “position”!


9 posted on 12/10/2024 3:56:28 PM PST by Navy Patriot (I Voted For President Trump, Celebrate Recivilization!)
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To: Navy Patriot

That dancing dwarf troll stole my money.


10 posted on 12/10/2024 3:58:28 PM PST by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh
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To: Navy Patriot

The legal age to vote in Ukraine is 18. Biden wants 18 year old Ukraine men to die before they ever get to cast their first vote whenever elections are held there again.


11 posted on 12/10/2024 4:02:48 PM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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...those still alive are the sons of Ukrainian powerbrokers or people Zelensky fears.

Yep, Zelensky's running out of Proles.

Zelensky has been conscripting boys 15 years of age and that was a long time ago.

I believe Zelensky, and most of his big-shots, have been pushing them in the Rear.

12 posted on 12/10/2024 4:03:54 PM PST by Navy Patriot (I Voted For President Trump, Celebrate Recivilization!)
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“But, for example, getting younger people into the fight, we think, many of us think, is necessary. Right now, 18- to 25-year-olds are not in the fight,” he later added in an interview with Reuters.

Zelensky needs this generation to rebuild Ukraine demographically.

I'm sure by now he realizes that the MIC in Washington D.C. is not interested in resolving the war in Ukraine. So now Zelensky is reaching out to Trump. Even if it means he has to concede Crimea and Donbass for now.

13 posted on 12/10/2024 4:08:33 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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Actually I head a sound argument for why Ukraine does this.

They know there are serious demographic issues on the horizon for them and if you wait with conscription until 25 more men have children, i.e. reproduced.

Or so I understand it.


14 posted on 12/10/2024 4:18:12 PM PST by Red6
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To: Navy Patriot

We’ve reached the

The outcome of this war has been known for 2 years, lives and treasure still being wasted and Ukraine still shrinking. Biden won’t care once he’s out of office.


15 posted on 12/10/2024 4:24:49 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Black guy upon receiving a MAGA hat: "MURICA!")
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Zelensky needs this generation to rebuild Ukraine demographically.

Nah, he needs 'em for the Nazi Homos in the Ukraine Government and Elite Society to bugger.

Rebuilding Ukraine demographically will be accomplished by servicing Ukraine women with Islamic military age males, and Islamic female migrants to Ukraine from the usual 'stans in the East. Most of the females will be named Shariah.

Then Ukraine will fit right in with the Western EU.

16 posted on 12/10/2024 4:25:20 PM PST by Navy Patriot (I Voted For President Trump, Celebrate Recivilization!)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Biden doesn’t care no matter where the Deep Swamp Showcases the pResident.


17 posted on 12/10/2024 4:28:22 PM PST by Navy Patriot (I Voted For President Trump, Celebrate Recivilization!)
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To: Red6
They know there are serious demographic issues on the horizon for them and if you wait with conscription until 25 more men have children, i.e. reproduced.

If they draft the next generation of soldiers, Ukraine will be wiped out.

A country of 50 million in 1990 all the way down to 5 million by 2050.

Zelensky is not an idiot.

At this rate, Ukraine will have 25 million if they end the ear tomorrow but they will be able to recover.

18 posted on 12/10/2024 4:28:27 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: Red6

See my comment #16.


19 posted on 12/10/2024 4:29:57 PM PST by Navy Patriot (I Voted For President Trump, Celebrate Recivilization!)
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To: Navy Patriot
He'd be driven out of office or killed if he conscripted 18-year olds.

But, Ukraine is woefully short on troops.

So, if Trump cuts off military funding to Ukraine, Ukraine will have no choice but to take any deal it can get.

20 posted on 12/10/2024 4:36:46 PM PST by Kazan
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