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A Constitutional Crisis Greater Than Watergate
The Atlantic ^ | Dec. 1, 2024 | David Frum

Posted on 12/01/2024 10:22:06 AM PST by libstripper

For more than four decades before Donald Trump assumed the presidency, the FBI director was a position above politics. A new president might choose a political ally as attorney general, but the FBI director was different. An FBI director appointed by Richard Nixon also served under Presidents Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter. Carter’s choice remained on the job deep into Reagan’s second term, when Reagan moved him to head the CIA. Reagan’s FBI appointee served through the George H. W. Bush presidency and into the Bill Clinton administration. Clinton fired the inherited official—the first time a president ever fired an FBI director—only because the outgoing Bush administration had left behind a Department of Justice report accusing the director of ethical lapses. (Clinton tried to coax the tainted director into resigning of his own volition. Only after the coaxing failed did Clinton act.)

And so it continued into the 21st century. Except in a single case of serious scandal, Senate-confirmed FBI directors stayed in their post until they quit or until their 10-year term expired. Never, never, never was a Senate-confirmed FBI director fired so that the president could replace him with a loyalist. Republicans and Democrats alike agreed that there must be no return to the days when J. Edgar Hoover did special favors for presidents who perpetuated his power.

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Truly vomitous barfer from Frumie to show his total irrationality and absolute projection of the various horrors committed by the FBI under Biden onto Trump. Read it, barf to your hearts' content, and enjoy it.
1 posted on 12/01/2024 10:22:06 AM PST by libstripper
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To: libstripper

That horse left the barn 16 years ago; Mr. Author can’t see that because it was his political side, which to him is not a political side but the One True Faith.


2 posted on 12/01/2024 10:24:51 AM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: libstripper

The Frumtard had no issue with the politicization of the Feeb and other letter agencies under Obama and Biden.
He’s one suited to live under a tyranny.


3 posted on 12/01/2024 10:25:17 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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To: libstripper

Right there in the very first sentence! “...the FBI director was a position above politics.” You know the whole article is going to be a stinky ,steaming pant load when he starts off with that whopper.


4 posted on 12/01/2024 10:26:08 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (Republicans are the party that says ‘Government doesn’t work.’ Then they get elected and prove it.)
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To: libstripper

The main reason Kash is important is that Wray allowd harassment of regular citizens. Any FBI agent who harassed anyone needs to be fired, like those two flunquis who showed up at that guys house because of a tweet the Biden Regime didn’t like


5 posted on 12/01/2024 10:27:19 AM PST by BigEdLB ( Let’s go Brandon)
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To: libstripper
For more than four decades before Donald Trump assumed the presidency, the FBI director was a position above politics.

In the very first sentence, he's building the foundation of his argument on a stinking pile of dog sh** propaganda.

6 posted on 12/01/2024 10:27:39 AM PST by PGR88
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To: libstripper

Yet another “constitutional crisis”.


7 posted on 12/01/2024 10:28:46 AM PST by glorgau
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To: libstripper

“ For more than four decades before Donald Trump assumed the presidency, the FBI director was a position above politics.”

They don’t understand their premise is wrong.

There is some truth in it and it is the way it oughta be.

They don’t understand Patel knows to bring it back to its law enforcement role.

They have it the exact opposite.

FBI maybe should be phased out.

We’ll see if it’s salvageable.


8 posted on 12/01/2024 10:29:42 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: libstripper

There is no mention of the FBI in the Constitution. Get rid of it completely.


9 posted on 12/01/2024 10:30:15 AM PST by Sirius Lee (Hi! Follow me on FReep Tok #Neanderthal #oMtBikes #Bach)
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To: libstripper
For more than four decades before Donald Trump assumed the presidency, the FBI director was a position above politics...

Sheesh. When an article starts out with such a misinformed/outright falsehood statement such as this, the faulty premise of the whole thing has been set and it's not worth reading.

10 posted on 12/01/2024 10:31:07 AM PST by fidelis (Ecce Crucem Domini! Fugite partes adversae! Vicit Leo de tribu Juda, Radix David! Alleluia!)
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To: Sirius Lee

When all else fails, yell Constitutional Crisis.


11 posted on 12/01/2024 10:31:53 AM PST by Col Frank Slade
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To: libstripper

Frum is the quintessential REMF, who knows nothing about life beyond the Beltway. He’s a jockey for the Deep State.


12 posted on 12/01/2024 10:33:08 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: libstripper

NOW they are concerned with “Constitutionality?”


13 posted on 12/01/2024 10:33:53 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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When I saw Atlantic and Frum, I knew t was propaganda.
14 posted on 12/01/2024 10:34:33 AM PST by dblshot
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All I will say is that Frum rhymes with dumb.


15 posted on 12/01/2024 10:36:10 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: libstripper

Frum is a clown, a dangerous clown like you see in horror movies.


16 posted on 12/01/2024 10:36:16 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

One of the main reasons why the FBI Director was above politics was because J. Edgar Hoover spied on and dug up dirt on all his political enemies including the POTUS and Members of the House and Senate, they were all afraid of what he would release if Hoover was ever fired.


17 posted on 12/01/2024 10:36:25 AM PST by srmanuel
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To: fidelis

“[T]he faulty premise of the whole thing has been set and it’s not worth reading.”

Oh yes, it is worth reading because it discloses the total psychotic effect of TDS on a particularly involved victim of the same condition.


18 posted on 12/01/2024 10:36:56 AM PST by libstripper
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To: BigEdLB

Those guys were the glowiest glowie feds ever sent to ring a citizen’s doorbell.

What they were doing there...they should be totally ashamed they didn’t refuse, on principle, to do it.


19 posted on 12/01/2024 10:38:29 AM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: Sirius Lee
There is no mention of the FBI in the Constitution. Get rid of it completely.

The Constitution defines only 3 federal offences: treason, piracy and counterfeiting. But it allows Congree free rein to create as many federal offences as it wishes. So far, Congress has created over 10,000 federal offenses. I've heard it said by legal experts that your average citizen commits 6 federal offenses a day in his normal activities. This permits the government to selectively enforce its law, a practice known as prosecutorial discretion, using skin color or political beliefs as factors to decide whether to prosecute. This is why we have an FBI.

If you want to abolish the FBI, you need to take those 10,000 federal offenses off the books and return those police powers to the states. That means Congress giving up power. That's something unlikely to happen.

20 posted on 12/01/2024 10:38:35 AM PST by Publius
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