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Donald Trump Could Push the US to Stop Adding Fluoride to Water. Where Does Europe Stand? [Most Don't]
Euronews ^ | 23/11/2024 | Gabriela Galvin

Posted on 11/29/2024 2:27:41 PM PST by nickcarraway

Few EU countries still fluoridate their water supplies, but there's no evidence that countries in Europe stopped because of health harms.

As US President-elect Donald Trump charts his second term in the White House, an unusual suspect is at the top of the health policy to-do list: removing fluoride, a naturally occurring mineral that helps prevent tooth decay, from the water supply.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr – an environmental lawyer, anti-vaccine activist, and Trump’s pick to lead the US health department – has called fluoride an "industrial waste" and said Trump will push to remove it on day one of his presidency in January.

The focus on fluoridation may seem mysterious to some, given the US and Europe started adding fluoride to drinking water to boost children’s dental health in the mid-1900s. It has been shown to reduce cavities by about 25 per cent.

In the US, state and local authorities decide whether to fluoridate water, but the government currently recommends a level of 0.7 milligrams of fluoride per litre of water, well below the World Health Organization (WHO)'s safety threshold of 1.5 mg/L.

However, there also appear to be some risks tied to long-term fluoridation above that level.

Research from countries with naturally high levels of fluoride suggests that excessive consumption is linked to bone weakening and lower IQ in children.

That has prompted backlash to fluoride over the years, with opponents claiming that European countries have "rejected" or banned fluoridation.

But is that really true? And how do European countries stack up when it comes to fluoride in drinking water?

Ireland, England, Wales, and parts of Spain currently add fluoride to water, according to researchers from Dublin City University.

About 10 per cent of England’s population has access to "optimally" fluoridated water, compared with 11 per cent in Spain and 73 per cent in Ireland, the British Society Foundation said in 2020.

Earlier this year, England moved to boost its fluoridation programme to cover more people in the northeastern part of the country, but the plan hasn’t moved forward.

Meanwhile, several Irish localities have stopped the practice, and Ireland's government launched a comprehensive review in 2014 to assess the potential health risks tied to fluoridation.

They published their most recent findings earlier this year, concluding that there is no definitive evidence for the vast majority of health problems but that more research is needed on the potential impact on the brain’s nervous system and hormone-related conditions.

Why don’t most European countries add fluoride to water?

According to the Dublin City University researchers, 11 EU and UK countries used to add fluoride to water but have since stopped: the Czech Republic, Finland, Germany, Hungary, Northern Ireland, the Netherlands, Poland, Romania, Scotland, Slovakia, and Sweden.

Another 14 countries never adopted the practice to begin with, including Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Denmark, Estonia, France, Greece, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Norway, and Slovenia.

Policymakers gave a number of reasons why they don’t fluoridate water, including people’s ability to get fluoride from tablets, toothpaste, or naturally occurring sources; out-of-date evidence that fluoridation helps with dental cavities; questions about individual rights and "mass medication"; and logistical hurdles in implementing a fluoride programme.

A few also reported public safety concerns, but they did not cite any actual health risks tied to fluoridation, the researchers found.

"There is no evidence that any country in the EU ceased adding fluoride because of evidence of harm," they concluded.

Are European countries still debating fluoride?

Not really – and especially not the Dutch, according to Roberta Hofman, a senior scientist at the KWR Water Research Institute in the Netherlands.

The Netherlands began adding fluoride to some drinking water as an experiment in 1953, eventually reaching about 2.5 million people by the late 1960s.

However, in 1973, the Dutch Supreme Court ruled that there was no legal basis for fluoridation and that policymakers would have to pass a new law to add fluoride – without ruling on whether it is good or bad for people’s health.

The debate hasn’t been meaningfully revived since then, Hofman told Euronews Health.

"People started to say, ‘Well, the government should not give us some medicine [when] we cannot choose where to buy our drinking water from," she said.

"In the Netherlands, we don't want to add chemicals or anything to drinking water".


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: europe; fluoridation; rfkjr
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1 posted on 11/29/2024 2:27:41 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
England is on board. Jolly good, what?


2 posted on 11/29/2024 2:32:37 PM PST by Apparatchik (Русские свиньи, идите домой!)
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To: nickcarraway

Someone said they are OVER chlorinating in some ares. Really don’t know the science. But thought there was a NEW way to get flouride to these kids...with some type of mouth piece.


3 posted on 11/29/2024 2:33:59 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: nickcarraway

Who makes and sells Flouride ?i read it cost 63 cents per person per year in Texas


4 posted on 11/29/2024 2:34:32 PM PST by al baby (I know sarcasm )
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To: nickcarraway

Fluoride used to be used to treat overactive thyroid. Maybe the amount in drinking water harms people with hypothyroid, maybe it doesn’t. Seems like it should be their choice to ingest it or not.


5 posted on 11/29/2024 2:45:47 PM PST by Roos_Girl (The world is full of educated derelicts. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: Sacajaweau
The problem when you add something to the water is dosing becomes an issue.

And a bunch of people do not drink tap water anyway. Which I find weird but what do I know.

6 posted on 11/29/2024 2:48:59 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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To: nickcarraway

No General Ripper warnings about safeguarding our precious bodily fluids, this is disappointing FR.


7 posted on 11/29/2024 2:52:16 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: nickcarraway
Fluoride Mandrake....


8 posted on 11/29/2024 2:52:50 PM PST by xp38
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To: tumblindice

less than a minute away :)


9 posted on 11/29/2024 2:54:20 PM PST by xp38
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To: nickcarraway

Brigadier General Jack D. Ripper was unavailable for comment.


10 posted on 11/29/2024 2:54:35 PM PST by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. One was a cylindrical object)
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To: tumblindice
Well, we're only seven posts in.

Besides, most of us are still replenishing our precious bodily fluids after a day of overeating yesterday, made all the more problematic with the water being adulterated with certain communist chemicals...

11 posted on 11/29/2024 2:54:49 PM PST by OKSooner (Nucular combat, toe to toe with the Rooskies! )
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To: nickcarraway

Are there any toothpastes made today that don’t have Fluoride in their formula? Why would have to add Fluoride to the water any more, it’s whole different world today than in 1945. Hawaii bans Fluoridation, do a lot of Hawaiians have cavity riddled and rotting teeth?


12 posted on 11/29/2024 2:54:54 PM PST by Mastador1
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You beat me by 2 minutes.


13 posted on 11/29/2024 2:55:29 PM PST by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. One was a cylindrical object)
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To: nickcarraway

Will we see Leftists trying to add it to their water? Probably.


14 posted on 11/29/2024 2:55:52 PM PST by cdcdawg ("She runs a mean pick six," said Tim Walz, a fraud.)
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To: Macho MAGA Man

I might have nosed him out but I had trouble picking the best gif


15 posted on 11/29/2024 2:57:19 PM PST by xp38
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Red, green and black tea all contain a substantial amount of Flouride.


16 posted on 11/29/2024 2:58:49 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Mastador1

Yes there are toothpastes without fluoride. They’re even carrying some in the pharmacy section of the grocery store now

I’m at the wrong computer right now, but I’m going to come back and post a follow-up to you on some research that indicates another way to protect teeth and rebuild the enamel that does not require fluoride.


17 posted on 11/29/2024 3:24:01 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s ("If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there")
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To: Mastador1

“Are there any toothpastes made today that don’t have Fluoride in their formula?”

I think so, but I don’t know which ones.

If you do use a Fluoride toothpaste just make sure you don’t swallow any. If you do, read the warning label and call the poison center.


18 posted on 11/29/2024 3:31:19 PM PST by jeffersondem
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Thank you for referencing that article nickcarraway. Please note that the following critique is directed at the referenced article and not at you.

"Donald Trump Could Push the US to Stop Adding Fluoride to Water. Where Does Europe Stand? [Most Don't]"


FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

The states need to stop relying on the compromised, unconstitutionally big central government, in trying to find a better way of life for their respective citizens.

More specifically, ignore what the constitutionally limited power (hint), peacetime federal government says about anything not reasonably related to the US Mail Service, the mail service being one of the very few, MAIN powers that the states have given to the feds to dictate domestic policy, most federal domestic policy now based on stolen state powers.

Regarding the question of health benefits of putting fluoride in water, the states need to start practicing Justice Louis Brandeis' good advice concerning his "laboratories of democracy" metaphor in the context of 10th Amendment state powers.

For example, a given state should find counties who would be willing to volunteer to stop using fluoride, while other counties continue to use it, comparing results after a few years.

"[...] a single courageous State may, if its citizens choose, serve as a laboratory; and try novel social and economic experiments without risk to the rest of the country." —Justice Louis Brandeis, Laboratories of Democracy.

19 posted on 11/29/2024 3:41:43 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: nickcarraway

Nobody cares what Europe does.


20 posted on 11/29/2024 3:41:48 PM PST by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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