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Biden authorizes Ukraine’s use of US-supplied long-range missiles for deeper strikes inside Russia
AP ^ | 11/17/24 | AP

Posted on 11/17/2024 12:11:00 PM PST by hardspunned

MANAUS, Brazil (AP) — President Joe Biden has authorized the use of U.S.-supplied long-range missiles by Ukraine to strike even deeper inside Russia, the latest easing of limitations meant to prevent the conflict from further spiraling, according to one U.S. official and three people familiar with the matter.

The decision allowing Ukraine to use the Army Tactical Missile System, or ATACMs, for attacks farther into Russia comes as thousands of North Korean troops have been sent into a region along Ukraine’s northern border to help Russia retake ground and as President-elect Donald Trump has said he would bring about a swift end to the war, expressing skepticism over continued support by the United States.

The weapons are likely to be used in response to the decision by North Korea to support Russian President Vladimir Putin’s invasion of Ukraine, according to one of the people. The official and the people familiar with the matter were not authorized to discuss the decision publicly and spoke on condition of anonymity.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Russia; Ukraine; War
KEYWORDS: bidencrimefamily; escalation; fjb; killkillkillforpeace; mic; nato; tothelastukrainian; ukraine; welfarewar; zeepersorgasmic; zeepersthrilled
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WWIII or Bust!
1 posted on 11/17/2024 12:11:00 PM PST by hardspunned
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To: hardspunned

they’re doing what they can to try and start WW3 before Trump is sworn in


2 posted on 11/17/2024 12:11:38 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: hardspunned

Sounds like they’re trying to get Trump to make a call, before he’s in office.

No more Mr. Nice Guy - there needs to be a scourging.


3 posted on 11/17/2024 12:17:31 PM PST by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: larrytown

Yup, they are setting Trump up for another impeachment over the Ukraine


4 posted on 11/17/2024 12:20:51 PM PST by rdcbn1
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To: hardspunned

BREAKING: FRANCE & BRITAIN just authorized Ukraine to strike deep into Russian territory with their SCALP/Storm Shadow missiles.

https://x.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1858239614227550333?s=46&t=oXM3QUNDayEotvdo1W-zQA

Here we go.


5 posted on 11/17/2024 12:21:14 PM PST by hardspunned (Look for the“Putin Stooge” libel, news from Ukraine you’ve gradually grown to trust over 30 months )
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To: hardspunned
From rhew article....
"... according to one U.S. official and three people familiar with the matter."
Not only has this AP article not named the names of the "official" and "people familiar," but a pop-up from AP is also clanging its begging bowl.

And the bottom of the article by FOUR people states two are in DC and two are in Palm Beach, though the article byline says "Manaus, Brazil." Takes four to write an article these days?

"DONATE" cries the Associated Press.

6 posted on 11/17/2024 12:21:22 PM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: sten

scumbags will stop at nothing, until they are lined up in front of the guillotine


7 posted on 11/17/2024 12:22:34 PM PST by ronnie raygun
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To: hardspunned

The globalists want a world war. Those missiles depend on satellites that Russia would be justified in destroying.


8 posted on 11/17/2024 12:24:16 PM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: sten

Holy crap it seems that way. These missiles cannot be launched without being programmed by us. This is a nightmare.


9 posted on 11/17/2024 12:32:10 PM PST by The Free Engineer
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To: sten

Holy crap it seems that way. These missiles cannot be launched without being programmed by us. This is a nightmare.


10 posted on 11/17/2024 12:32:11 PM PST by The Free Engineer
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To: T.B. Yoits

The way Putin laid out the potential retaliation, look for Israel to suffer over this. The Russians have no problem shooting down the NATO missiles mentioned. Their use will have zero effect on the outcome along the whole line of battle.

Putin promised to react anywhere in the world against NATO targets. So far the Russian reaction to previous provocation has been to up the lethality and number of weapons systems (and Russians to operate them) supplied to the Houthis and Iran.


11 posted on 11/17/2024 12:36:31 PM PST by hardspunned (Look for the“Putin Stooge” libel, news from Ukraine you’ve gradually grown to trust over 30 months )
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To: hardspunned

Wouldn’t be necessary if Putin hadn’t recklessly escalated things by bringing in NK troops

Putin’s fault!


12 posted on 11/17/2024 12:38:24 PM PST by canuck_conservative (NATO - now celebrating 75 successful years of keeping the Russian monsters out!!)
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To: hardspunned

Wouldn’t be necessary if Putin hadn’t recklessly escalated things by bringing in NK troops

Putin’s fault!


13 posted on 11/17/2024 12:38:24 PM PST by canuck_conservative (NATO - now celebrating 75 successful years of keeping the Russian monsters out!!)
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To: hardspunned
FRANCE & BRITAIN just authorized Ukraine to strike deep into Russian territory with their SCALP/Storm Shadow missiles. Here we go.

Pickett's Charge for the neocons.

14 posted on 11/17/2024 12:39:46 PM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: hardspunned

🗣 Full text of Vladimir Putin's statement on the potential U.S. and allied authorization for long-range missile strikes deep into Russia, dated September 12, 2024:

This is not about permitting or prohibiting the Kiev regime from striking Russian territory. They are already… pic.twitter.com/RQC5og0j9b— Zlatti71 (@Zlatti_71) November 17, 2024

Full text of Vladimir Putin's statement on the potential U.S. and allied authorization for long-range missile strikes deep into Russia, dated September 12, 2024:P> This is not about permitting or prohibiting the Kiev regime from striking Russian territory. They are already doing so with drones and other means. However, when it comes to the use of long-range, high-precision Western-made weapons, it is an entirely different matter.

The fact is—and I have already spoken about this, and any experts, both ours and in the West, will confirm this—that the Ukrainian army is not capable of striking with modern, high-precision, long-range Western-made systems. They cannot do this. This is only possible with the use of satellite intelligence, which Ukraine does not possess. These are data from either European Union or United States satellites, essentially NATO satellites. That is the first point.

The second and perhaps most crucial point is that the flight missions for these missile systems can, in essence, only be programmed by NATO military personnel. Ukrainian military personnel cannot do this. Therefore, the issue is not about permitting or forbidding the Ukrainian regime to strike Russia with these weapons. The issue is whether NATO countries decide to directly participate in the military conflict.

If such a decision is made, it will mean nothing less than the direct involvement of NATO countries, the United States, and European nations in the war in Ukraine. This direct involvement will significantly change the nature of the conflict.

It will mean that NATO countries, the United States, and European nations are at war with Russia. And if that is the case, given the fundamental change in the nature of this conflict, we will make decisions accordingly, based on the threats posed to us.

http://T.me/ukraine_watch

15 posted on 11/17/2024 12:43:03 PM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: sten
they’re doing what they can to try and start WW3 before Trump is sworn in

Yep - probably pardon Hunter after a big news day

16 posted on 11/17/2024 12:47:32 PM PST by 11th_VA (Democracy was on the ballot - and we won !!!)
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To: hardspunned

Did Biden himself announce this at a press conference while in Brazil?
Did he take questions about it and explain the US vital interest in risking global thermonuclear war over Ukraine?


17 posted on 11/17/2024 12:49:58 PM PST by desertsolitaire ( Lee Harvey Oswald and the Bands final performance)
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To: hardspunned

On his way out the door, Joe is intentionally trying to create a bigger mess for his successor to mop up. Lovely guy.


18 posted on 11/17/2024 12:52:38 PM PST by Trump20162020
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To: Right_Wing_Madman
--- "FRANCE & BRITAIN just authorized Ukraine to strike deep into Russian territory with their SCALP/Storm Shadow missiles. Here we go. Pickett's Charge for the neocons."

Kudos on an excellent analogy.

So many have not read the actual text of NATO's Article 5, which is in full:

"The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

"Any such armed attack and all measures taken as a result thereof shall immediately be reported to the Security Council. Such measures shall be terminated when the Security Council has taken the measures necessary to restore and maintain international peace and security ."

Not only does the article specifically state "the North Atlantic area," but there are wiggle words enough that the article isn't a rock-solid agreement to go to war as a unified force, but rather "actions as it deems necessary." When individually some nations decide to go to the proverbial back of the line, while urging others to fight before they have to, one sees the distinct parallel to the proxy war now ongoing, a land war between non-NATO nations far from the " North Atlantic area."

France and Britain have assets in place not legally France or Britain where military retaliation can happen all to easily. The notion that there is only "everybody in the pool" or "nobody" is fallacious. But additionally there is far more destruction which awaits in terms of the remainder of the Ukrainian energy infrastructure before Russia might reach to "touch" a Brit or French asset not in Britain or France.

19 posted on 11/17/2024 12:53:40 PM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: JonPreston

Keep that post handy. People need to be reminded.


20 posted on 11/17/2024 12:57:47 PM PST by McGruff (Making America Great Again)
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