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Why Veterans Really Hate Liz Cheney, Kamala Harris, And The Architects Of The War On Terror
The Federalist ^ | November 04, 2024 | Cynical Publius

Posted on 11/04/2024 8:55:01 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum

The recent controversy regarding Donald Trump’s criticism of Liz Cheney as a warhawk who has never faced the dangers of the wars she embraces has synthesized an issue that may be opaque to non-veterans: the extreme resentment many veterans of the Global War on Terrorism (GWOT) feel toward Kamala Harris and the Democrat Party.

Harris and the Democrats have created a perfect storm of veteran disdain in that they have succeeded in uniting three once-inapposite groups behind Harris: the neocons who started the GWOT, the media and Democrats who undermined the veterans’ GWOT missions, and the generals who failed again and again and again at bringing the GWOT to a successful conclusion.

If you want to understand the prevailing veteran rage against Harris and love for Trump, you need to understand this unholy trinity that so many veterans loathe.

I’ll start with the neocon “chickenhawks.” Maybe it’s not fair to blame Liz Cheney for the GWOT as her father was its prime architect and not Liz herself, but she has come to serve as a symbol of the many advocates for useless, endless wars who never put their own lives (or the lives of their children) on the line, and who now support Kamala Harris. Liz Cheney stands as a symbol in this regard, and she stands for the many establishment Republicans who would rather support a radical Democrat than the only president in decades who did not start new wars. 

These are neocons like Dick Cheney, Alberto Gonzales, Bill Kristol, and the infamous 200-plus Republican former staffers for George W. Bush, Mitt Romney, and John McCain who helped design the GWOT. These are the people who put GWOT veterans into the...

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Kamala Harris has accomplished something quite remarkable. She has assembled these three disparate groups into an improbable unholy trinity that now personifies the 1935 warning of Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler: “War is a Racket.” 

And so it is.

1 posted on 11/04/2024 8:55:01 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Anyone seen US military recruitment numbers recently? I’ve heard they were going to stop publishing them.

Its one BIG lever true Constitutionalists and small-government conservatives have over the woke deep-state.

I’m surprised we/they don’t use it.


2 posted on 11/04/2024 8:58:26 AM PST by PGR88
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

War Pigs.
War is sometimes necessary but only as a last resort . It should be have a goal and a duration as short as possible.
I supported the Iraq action up until I heard the word “ DeBathification”.


3 posted on 11/04/2024 8:59:58 AM PST by griswold3 (Truth Beauty and Goodness)
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Anyone seen US military recruitment numbers recently? I’ve heard they were going to stop publishing them.

That's why they want to resurrect the draft.

4 posted on 11/04/2024 9:00:12 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

She would be Kamala’s Secretary of Defense.

She didn’t endorse her for nothing.


5 posted on 11/04/2024 9:00:49 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Maybe if we still fought WARS... we’d have far fewer of them to worry about...

“Nation building” and playing Globo-cop are NOT what we should be using our Military might for...


6 posted on 11/04/2024 9:04:15 AM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Smedley Darlington Butler warned us about the MIL, US Elites, and coming fascism…


7 posted on 11/04/2024 9:05:06 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Dead Corpse

But but..we’re a “Global Force For Good”, don’cha know.


8 posted on 11/04/2024 9:05:37 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I’m a combat vet and concur.

I HATE POS chickenhawks and war lovers... inluding POS chickenhawk and war loving FReepers... who infest this forum.

All are truly worthy of a good curb-stomping.


9 posted on 11/04/2024 9:07:19 AM PST by AAABEST (That time Washington DC became a corrupted, existential threat to us all...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Bkmk


10 posted on 11/04/2024 9:15:00 AM PST by sauropod ("This is a time when people reveal themselves for who they are." James O'Keefe Ne supra crepidam)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If you are unwilling to use nuclear weapons on the enemy, perhaps its not worth sending in troops. If its a choice between their innocent civilians and our innocent soldiers, let their civilians be the ones to die.


11 posted on 11/04/2024 9:18:15 AM PST by ALPAPilot
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To: dfwgator

That should be the job of the State Department, not the Marines...

We break stuff and end bloodlines.

Call a cartoon if you want Bob to Build something...


12 posted on 11/04/2024 9:35:59 AM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: AAABEST

Hey hey hey. Don’t insult our brave FR REMFs. Each bravely willing to send every last Russian and Ukrainian into the meat grinder. Courageously texting and posting each day. An inspiration to us all!! God Bless the CFR, WEF and MIC!


13 posted on 11/04/2024 9:38:40 AM PST by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If Trump overcomes the cheat tommorow, the DemonRats will try to get the U.S. into WW3, in the last two months.


14 posted on 11/04/2024 9:39:25 AM PST by Old Yeller (On judgement day, you’ll wish you were biblically correctly, not politically correct.)
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There will be riots and screams for secession. Maybe this time we can finally rid ourselves of CA.


15 posted on 11/04/2024 9:43:50 AM PST by Windcatcher
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They will stage false-flag J6s and kidnappings and truck-bombings and...

Their final solution will be shooting Trump’s plane down.


16 posted on 11/04/2024 9:46:09 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The last paragraph is succinctly cogent.

In a sense, perhaps we should thank Harris for exposing the perfidy of those we once trusted. Instead, we will vote for her opponent and for a U.S. military that is called upon only when national survival is at stake. It’s not that we are afraid to die — it’s that we are no longer willing to die for nothing.

Having taken part in the Vietnam war, this Veteran did not serve in the GWOT. Both "kids" did, however, and I do suspect that neither Ms. Harris nor the Lizard earned any respect from them.

17 posted on 11/04/2024 9:57:11 AM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never...in nothing, great or small...Winston ChurchIill)
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I don’t think Liz would survive the confirmation hearing.


18 posted on 11/04/2024 10:05:58 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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You’re killing me! In 8 years of active duty, I had numerous encounters with REMFs, mostly my last two years in Germany. I was the Supply Officer at my Battalion, as a First Lieutenant. Those that didn’t know my bachelors degree was Public Accounting soon found out. It was glorious doing battle with higher headquarters.


19 posted on 11/04/2024 10:17:13 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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“the rest of what we did in those two wars was, sadly, a waste of time, money, and lives.”

Not true. The Iraq was a UN mandate determined at the margin by permanent Security Council members Russia and the PRC. I think was the only time besides Korea that the UN, which we and Great Britain founded, acted in accordance with its mission in the use of armed forces.

20 posted on 11/04/2024 10:19:54 AM PST by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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