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Here's One Reason Why FEMA Is Doing Such a Terrible Job
Hotair ^ | 10/04/2024 | David Strom

Posted on 10/04/2024 7:47:37 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 10/04/2024 7:47:37 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Had enough of life’s losers hating the average White?


2 posted on 10/04/2024 7:57:18 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist! )
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To: SeekAndFind

Killing mostly white conservatives, one disaster at a time.


3 posted on 10/04/2024 8:01:01 PM PDT by BipolarBob (You may call me blind, deaf and dumb but I'm sill a Pinball Wizard.)
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To: SeekAndFind

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4 posted on 10/04/2024 8:43:01 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (Fight! Fight! Fight!)
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To: SeekAndFind

FEMA turns way random help as they are inconsistent and usually not were they really are not needed. FEMA wants public help but they coordinate with organizations and coordinate support through them. 200 people showing up out of the blue as one site with a shovel and supplies does not help them as they don’t have the coordination power for that.
It’s great that folks want to help but they get in the way of sending help to were they think that are needed not were volunteers show up.
If folks want to help then go join Samaritan’s purse or the Red Cross or your local government and then help. Be prepared you’re likely going to paying your own way and personal time there if you just show up. The Cajun navy is another group that takes volunteers organizes them to support the relief effort. That started as ragtag collection of support and now are part of the bigger relief effort. Goto thier website to see what they do now.
SWAG: As to the collection of goods for support. I assume in the same vein they take random collections of food and aid and then figure out where to distribute the goods to the most needy. It does not always get to where you think. The incident with the mayor of San Juan PR hoarding fed support was a great example of corruption. I assume a FEMA contractor does the collection as FEMA only has about 2,500 full time employees so they contract manpower and equipment. Bringing random stuff out of the closet and pantry does not help much. Feed good but tons of supplies are needed.

This is based the 900 Series ( or used to be numbered)emergency training course FEMA offers that I took in the 2000s and my time spent working months on and boots on the ground for Katrina and working fed exercises.

I feel bad that good people want to help but without coordination it becomes more of a mess that it helps and red meat topics for radio.


5 posted on 10/04/2024 8:45:27 PM PDT by Liaison (TANSTAAFL)
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“FEMA turns way random help as they are inconsistent and usually not where they really are not needed. FEMA wants public help but they coordinate with organizations and coordinate support through them. 200 people showing up out of the blue as one site with a shovel and supplies does not help them as they don’t have the coordination power for that.”

Do you actually BELIEVE this nonsense!? I have been in hurricane areas all my life and I’ve been on both sides of either needing help or offering help. When you are without power and trees are all over the place ... and a guy or guys show up in a pickup truck with a chain saw and bottled water and offer to get gas for your car, I guarantee your response will not be “oh, fellas, are you sure you have coordinated what you are doing with the government? Is your chain-saw environmentally secure? Do you have proper OSHA approved gas tanks?”

Get real. Government can help, they have helicopters and NG personnel. (See Desantis in Fla.) But the idea that individuals and groups cannot help people with real, serious needs is balderdash!


6 posted on 10/04/2024 9:08:23 PM PDT by JohnEBoy (I voted for Trump to be my president, not my pastor.)
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To: Liaison
In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Here's One Reason Why FEMA Is Doing Such a Terrible Job, Liaison wrote:

FEMA turns way random help as they are inconsistent and usually not were they really are not needed. FEMA wants public help but they coordinate with organizations and coordinate support through them. 200 people showing up out of the blue as one site with a shovel and supplies does not help them as they don’t have the coordination power for that.
It’s great that folks want to help but they get in the way of sending help to were they think that are needed not were volunteers show up.
If folks want to help then go join Samaritan’s purse or the Red Cross or your local government and then help. Be prepared you’re likely going to paying your own way and personal time there if you just show up. The Cajun navy is another group that takes volunteers organizes them to support the relief effort. That started as ragtag collection of support and now are part of the bigger relief effort. Goto thier website to see what they do now.
SWAG: As to the collection of goods for support. I assume in the same vein they take random collections of food and aid and then figure out where to distribute the goods to the most needy. It does not always get to where you think. The incident with the mayor of San Juan PR hoarding fed support was a great example of corruption. I assume a FEMA contractor does the collection as FEMA only has about 2,500 full time employees so they contract manpower and equipment. Bringing random stuff out of the closet and pantry does not help much. Feed good but tons of supplies are needed.

This is based the 900 Series ( or used to be numbered)emergency training course FEMA offers that I took in the 2000s and my time spent working months on and boots on the ground for Katrina and working fed exercises.

I feel bad that good people want to help but without coordination it becomes more of a mess that it helps and red meat topics for radio.

Not true. FEMA has a 'preferred providers' list. Funds flow to their 'preferred providers', and some say they kickback to officials in the state.

Anyway, if you're not a 'preferred provider' your contributions risk decreasing contributions from 'preferred providers'.

Victims are dying without water. What about using civilians to distribute water to the dying? SO they die? And can be around for when the FEMA people decide they are comfortably organized enough to distribute food?

 


7 posted on 10/04/2024 9:11:18 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: SeekAndFind

Had enough yet? Nope. Sheeple still too comfortable, too many dependent on the federal tit for their paltry lives. They are willing to give up freedom for a handout. The Revolution took place for less than we have already endured and those people had even less taken away from them and less interference by King George than we have suffered at the hands of the feds.


8 posted on 10/04/2024 9:21:36 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (More important than why there was nobody protecting the AGR roof, how did Crooks know that?)
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To: Liaison
I feel bad that good people want to help but without coordination it becomes more of a mess that it helps and red meat topics for radio.

So where is this coordination of which you speak?

I see nearby military assets who are actually good at relief efforts under adverse conditions being ordered to stand down.

I see supply trucks being vandalized and sabotaged while in-transit, both from volunteer and official convoys. Where are the security forces that should protect these convoys?

I see FEMA obstructing every type of volunteer or local initiative to deliver supplies or clear rubble. Then they state that they do not have enough "resources" to do those tasks.

I see a gang of illegal immigrants arrested for looting and then released on $1,000 bail or recognizance bonds. I hear other stories of looters being found hanged from trees and decorated with posters.

I notice that one volunteer organization which is still operational in NC is advertising on their website, requesting volunteers with heavy equipment skills, EMT skills, and logistics coordination skills to come on down. They also ask volunteers to bring with them weapons and ammunition if they have a Concealed Carry Permit.

WTF?

What is FEMA doing to remedy anything?

9 posted on 10/04/2024 9:27:28 PM PDT by flamberge (It turns out that you can fool most of the people, most of the time.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Where is the NC State Government in this? FEMA doesn’t have ultimate authority in this situation. They provide assistance and funding to the states. FEMA may suck, but I’m not hearing about NC exceeding any expectations either.


10 posted on 10/04/2024 9:50:21 PM PDT by chickenlips (Neuter your politicians)
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Breaking:

Reports that a FEMA director who was acting arrogant and denying aid to #NorthCarolina flood victims was BEATEN by local residents.

8:37 AM · Oct 4, 2024

Lots of commentary here:

https://x.com/RetroCoast/status/1842212404689551467

But wait. There is more:

Breaking:

NC State police issue statement that they will start arresting any federal employees trying to stop or hinder rescue operations.

2:04 PM · Oct 4, 2024

https://x.com/CPTOshaughnessy/status/1842294699224416462

I guess that is what is meant by "interesting times".

11 posted on 10/04/2024 10:05:14 PM PDT by flamberge (It turns out that you can fool most of the people, most of the time.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is tryanny.
And this is what tyrants do.

Many interesting decisions coming up for all of us.

The republic we had is now obviously gone.
Do we see the fruit? It’s the same fruit we saw last election and Covid.

Yes Virgina, they ARE trying to kill you. This should be obvious to everyone now.


12 posted on 10/04/2024 10:22:52 PM PDT by griffin (When you have to shoot, SHOOT; don't talk. -Tuco)
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I hear other stories of looters being found hanged from trees and decorated with posters.

Is this true? Source?

13 posted on 10/04/2024 10:51:28 PM PDT by ponygirl (Stay gold.)
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To: flamberge

flamberge wrote:


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I notice that one volunteer organization which is still operational in NC is advertising on their website, requesting volunteers with heavy equipment skills, EMT skills, and logistics coordination skills to come on down. They also ask volunteers to bring with them weapons and ammunition if they have a Concealed Carry Permit.

Which volunteer organization, Cajun Navy?


14 posted on 10/04/2024 11:37:54 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((the more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.) )
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To: chickenlips

NC has a worthless pos demonrat governor which is why they were so unprepared and are getting no assistance from the NC government.


15 posted on 10/04/2024 11:52:37 PM PDT by Newtoidaho (All I ask of living is to have no chains on me.)
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One problem. There is no NC State police and I can’t find any such statement.

The North Carolina State Highway Patrol (NCSHP) is the highway patrol agency for North Carolina which has no per-se “state police” agency.

Just because we detest the MSM doesn’t mean we should lap up any garbage posted by a rando on Twit.


16 posted on 10/05/2024 12:58:05 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s² )
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To: SeekAndFind

WNC is filled with people from NY, MA, and every other bastion of liberalism. They hate God, guns, freedom. They will take, take take. They love big government. There are a minority of regular folks. Lots of liberal virtue signaling. We are in Hendersonville l, one county over. The 15 foot hole in our roof is already fixed. There is a reason I rarely go into Asheville. Sometimes it’s required. Swannanoa got hit hard, it’s just outside Asheville.
Its almost 6am and my husband is headed this the cove to assist Samaritans purse. I will be making them a couple of cakes today. Power is still minimal so they are eating sandwiches.
Asheville area gets a hurricane about every ten years. NC knows this and does not prepare the state. They have no desire to save lives. There just here for some other thing.
Edneyville had landslides and is a catastrophe, but folks were out on day two chainsaws and determination.


17 posted on 10/05/2024 2:17:12 AM PDT by momincombatboots (BQEphesians 6... who you are really at war with.)
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1. NC has a worthless pos demonrat governor
2. which is why they were so unprepared
3.and are getting no assistance from the NC government.

1. True: a high level douche’
2. Qualified false: no one anywhere could have been prepared for the scope of this disaster.
3. Qualified true: Awful hard to coordinate disaster relief from Raleigh, 200 miles away. A better HQ would be Hickory at the junction of 321 and I40...That accesses the high country around Boone and west to Asheville and beyond. [Recall that I40 was shut down for a spell at Old Fort...I think that leg is reopened.]

I recall Ivan in 2004. Much flooding and destruction. This event is so very much worse.

I cry for my mountains.


18 posted on 10/05/2024 2:35:05 AM PDT by Adder (End fascism...defeat all Democrats.)
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To: SeekAndFind

And the California-New York ALL-ELECTRIC vehicle, ban fossil fuels solution, would have the Department of Global Temperature Security threatening the population for using fossil fuels to clear paths and roads and generate electricity.

So the “recovery” would take much longer.


19 posted on 10/05/2024 2:37:20 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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It’s great that folks want to help but they get in the way of sending help to were they think that are needed not were volunteers show up.

For 6 days, those “folks who want to help” were the only effective help there was. Now FEMA shows up and takes over to the point of dismissing people who want to help while doing very little themselves.
Your comments, in general, are disturbing. I see some of your points but they betray the arrogance of bureaucracy.
I do NOT see FEMA blue tarps. I do NOT see FEMA trailers.

What I DO see is an arrogance that is dismissive and undermining instead of supportive and helpful.


20 posted on 10/05/2024 2:42:10 AM PDT by Adder (End fascism...defeat all Democrats.)
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