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Why Israel Is Worried About Iran’s Nuclear Ambitions
NYT ^ | 10/3/24 | Reuel Marc Gerecht and Ray Takeyh

Posted on 10/03/2024 4:42:58 AM PDT by hardspunned

Iran’s supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, learned the limits of his foreign policy strategy this week: Even well-armed and well-trained surrogate forces can prove unreliable if a determined modern army disables them.

After the death of Hassan Nasrallah and many of the other members of the upper echelons of the Lebanese Hezbollah, the clerical regime’s thwarted ballistic-missile attack on Israel on Tuesday was an attempt to diminish the humiliation that Tehran has felt after Israel rapidly deconstructed Iran’s most cherished protégé. With Hezbollah as a model and partner, Tehran had perfected Islamist imperialism on the cheap: Proxies spread the faith and mauled Iran’s enemies while shielding it from direct retaliation.

But as the Israeli offensives in Gaza and Lebanon have revealed, an aspiring regional hegemon with limited conventional capacity needs more firepower and deterrence than proxies alone can deliver. Israel may have already destroyed much of Hezbollah’s most dangerous missiles, launchers and missile crews. And given the two-time failure of Iran to overwhelm the Jewish state’s air defenses, the regime’s huge investment in ballistic and cruise missiles has also proved suddenly wanting.

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Sorry about the silly western disinfo (thwarted ballistic missile attack) in this piece but it is useful for background. The Iranians have scheduled an announcement about their nuclear program tomorrow. The ability of the Iranians to put a missile on any target in Israel was proven two nights ago.
1 posted on 10/03/2024 4:42:58 AM PDT by hardspunned
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To: hardspunned

How many missiles got through? Watching the live reporring I saw some get through, but many get intercepted. They fired 200 missiles in two waves, apparently. If the percent intercepted is 90% or greater then saying the “thwarted” the attack seems reasonable.


2 posted on 10/03/2024 4:53:26 AM PDT by Vlad0
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To: hardspunned

With Nuclear payloads, there won’t be anymore near misses.


3 posted on 10/03/2024 4:56:11 AM PDT by MMusson ( )
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To: hardspunned

“The ability of the Iranians to put a missile on any target in Israel was proven two nights ago.”

181 missiles and they managed to kill one Palestinian guy who was walking down the street. Not a single Israeli military asset was damaged.

Not one.

L


4 posted on 10/03/2024 4:58:30 AM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: hardspunned

The Iranians will use nuclear weapons

Eventually on Israel or a neighbouring country like Saudi Arabia

In any case , American people don’t understand the middle eastern mentality

They never have and never will

Islam hates the west.

Arabs are liars , liars liars liars. And back stabers

Israel needs to do the dirty work that America won’t do.

Destroy their nuclear capability and hit their parliament and all airbases

If Iran retaliates then Israel must destroy their oils fields and ports


5 posted on 10/03/2024 5:16:47 AM PDT by forYourChildrenVote4Bush
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With Nuclear payloads, there won’t be anymore near misses.

Then the time is now for Israel to destroy Iran's nuclear capability.
6 posted on 10/03/2024 5:17:45 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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American people don’t understand the middle eastern mentality … Arabs are liars , liars liars liars. And back stabers

You’re right about the first point. Count yourself among those Americans.

Iranians aren’t Arabs. They’re Persians.

7 posted on 10/03/2024 5:23:37 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Well, maybe I'm a little rough around the edges; inside a little hollow.” -- Tom Petty, “Rebels”)
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To: Vlad0

Well, the first thing you need to do is quit watching that “live reporting” of western disinfo BS. Notice how the Iranians can put a barrage of 15 or 20 missiles on a precision target with NONE of them being intercepted over the target? According to your sources, this precision barrage is in a wheat field or on some deserted beach.

If the Russians can do this to the Ukes, why don’t you think those Russian “volunteers” in Iran can’t aim these hypersonics against the Israelis too?

https://x.com/bonheursuis/status/1841329251968315509?s=46&t=oXM3QUNDayEotvdo1W-zQA


8 posted on 10/03/2024 5:32:41 AM PDT by hardspunned (Look for the“Putin Stooge” libel, news from Ukraine you’ve gradually grown to trust over 30 months )
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To: Lurker

Of course, for a genocidal wannabe killer (“lock Palastinian families in their houses, then burn them alive”), how many innocent civilians got killed is your only interest. The Iranians killed one with debris but targeted NONE.

How many innocent women and children did your hero of heroes, Bibi, slaughter when he targeted six high rise apartment buildings full of women and children with 80 2000 lb American bombs? Calm down, don’t get yourself excited again.

As for what the Iranians were targeting, they hit. Those were military targets. I know for you this is hard but it’s easier to win a war by concentrating on military targets first rather than indiscriminate slaughter of civilians. Remember, this war isn’t only being waged for your perverse enjoyment.

“The Israeli Nevatim air base in southern Israel on Wednesday show the damage to the roof in a row of buildings near the main runway.

Large pieces of debris can be seen spread around the building following Iran’s Tuesday missile strikes.”

https://x.com/mylordbebo/status/1841721421828866193?s=46&t=oXM3QUNDayEotvdo1W-zQA


9 posted on 10/03/2024 5:44:05 AM PDT by hardspunned (Look for the“Putin Stooge” libel, news from Ukraine you’ve gradually grown to trust over 30 months )
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To: forYourChildrenVote4Bush

Islamic people are fatalists. All is in Allah’s hands. That’s why they never amount to much, creativity is stiffed. Telling a lie to a non-believer isn’t a sin. It is a completely dominating culture—Religion is all—Laws, beliefs, what to eat, what to do, what to think. It has many good elements, and it was advanced for the 15th Century. BUT it is incompatible with 20th Century values. Would they use Nukes—yes.
Iran is a special case—it is a theocratic state. In many ways it is closer to Ancient Egypt, with God Kings ruling. Only good thing is Russia has some influence over them and may add some stability. Bad news, Russia will not permit them to be trashed by Israel, America, England or the west.
Putin will not sit back and watch their ally be creamed. Russians do not think like Americans. They understand Islamic people better than we do (having fought them for a thousand years).


10 posted on 10/03/2024 5:51:56 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (. War is Hell, War IS a Crime.)
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To: hardspunned

Better article “Why the NYT is worried about israel defending herself!”


11 posted on 10/03/2024 6:07:08 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: hardspunned

“the silly western disinfo (thwarted ballistic missile attack)”

You’re right.

iran did manage to murder one sunni muslim arab, so it wasn’t a complete failure.

(Allahu Akhbar Chorus Alert!)


12 posted on 10/03/2024 6:52:01 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?" And I said, "Here I am! Send me." )
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Here’s hardspunned’s one success of his iranian masters: the video of a missile tube crushing a palestinian sunni muslim arab.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2ciW9aDNsTg

Way to go, mullahs and hardspunned!


13 posted on 10/03/2024 6:57:33 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?" And I said, "Here I am! Send me." )
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181 missiles and they managed to slightly damage one roof.

Nice shooting.

Now let’s talk about the over 1,100 innocent Israelis slaughtered by Islamist savages from Gaza and the over 100 hostages they’re still using as human shields.

Funny how you never mention any of that.

If the islamists would give up violence against Israel none of this would happen.

L


14 posted on 10/03/2024 6:59:08 AM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: hardspunned

hamas + hezbollah + houthis LOVES them some hardspunned.


15 posted on 10/03/2024 6:59:25 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?" And I said, "Here I am! Send me." )
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You’re a laughingstock!

Keep up the good work!


16 posted on 10/03/2024 7:01:15 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie ("Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?" And I said, "Here I am! Send me." )
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To: hardspunned

“Why Israel Is Worried About Iran’s Nuclear Ambitions”???

Is that the dumbest headline in NY Slimes history?

The ‘why’ of it is rather simple... Israel faces complete annihilation at the hands of radical Iranian Muslims who hate Jews and hate Israel.

The question the NY Slimes should be asking and highlighting is this:

Who allowed Iran to develop nuclear tech, when the clear aim of the Iranian regime is and always has been using it to annihilate Israel.


17 posted on 10/03/2024 7:03:44 AM PDT by jerod (Nazis were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: hardspunned

Guess Joey gave them the green light on taking out the oil and not worried if oil goes to $200.....dumb ass


18 posted on 10/03/2024 8:01:57 AM PDT by wardamneagle
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To: hardspunned

Obama facilitated the Iranian nuclear program because he knows that Iran will use it against Israel soon as it is able.

Obama is the new Hitler. Biden and Harris are his mindless puppets.


19 posted on 10/03/2024 8:05:27 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (The pandemic we suffer from is not COVID. It is Marxist Democrat Leftism. )
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To: hardspunned
The ability of the Iranians to put a missile on any target in Israel was proven two nights ago.

Not really. Many missiles were intercepted plus the Israeli system has the ability to project where an incoming missile will strike and just let it go and not waste an interceptor if it's just going to land out in empty desert. Iran managed to kill one Palestinian. Iran claimed to have destroyed a number of F-35s, but I've seen no evidence that that's true.

20 posted on 10/03/2024 8:35:53 AM PDT by libertylover (Our biggest problem, by far, is that almost all of big media is AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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