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What would happen to elections if Utah stopped sending ballots by mail?
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 9/23/24 | EmilyAnderson Stern

Posted on 09/23/2024 10:08:36 AM PDT by DallasBiff

On the northern edge of Utah’s west desert, where the salt-crusted dry lakebed ends and neighbors often live dozens of miles apart, Michael Moore and his family are trying to sustain a farm where they raise chickens and care for a small garden.

Once a month he takes a three-hour drive to Ogden to paint walls for extra money —as surviving has become more difficult as food and gas prices rise. How Moore marks his ballot this November will largely hinge on what he thinks will be best for the economy.

And his ballot will inevitably be cast by mail, he said, because the closest ballot drop box and in-person polling location in Box Elder County are both over two hours away.

“I probably wouldn’t vote if I had to drive that far,” Moore said.

Utah is one of eight states — six of which are in the expansive American West, where it isn’t uncommon to have to travel hours to vote — to send ballots to all active, registered voters by mail.

It is also the only red state of the bunch. And as doubts around election integrity and rumors of fraud, often without evidence, have grown in the Republican Party’s ranks in the years since it lost the White House in 2020, an increasing number of elected officials in the Beehive State have called for Utah to end, or restrict, voting by mail.

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TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: mailvoting; utah
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So the state of Utah can't set up polling places within a 1/2 hour of residents and rely on the US postal service which takes 5 days.
1 posted on 09/23/2024 10:08:36 AM PDT by DallasBiff
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To: DallasBiff

It’s once every 2/4 years. Take a drive to do your civic duty. Unless you really don’t WANT to vote, and then good riddance.


2 posted on 09/23/2024 10:10:25 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: DallasBiff

There are remote locales all over the west. Why would VBM be denied those folks?


3 posted on 09/23/2024 10:11:24 AM PDT by Owen
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To: Owen

These are the same people who bemoan “food deserts” because they have to travel more than 1 mile to find a grocery store.


4 posted on 09/23/2024 10:13:54 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: DallasBiff

As long as the ‘Rats insist on sending Ballots by mail, due to reciprocity, shouldn’t patriots be able to obtain Bullets by mail?


5 posted on 09/23/2024 10:14:14 AM PDT by C210N (Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur.)
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To: Owen

Can amplify the scenario, too.

Your generic military veteran with decorations for bravery retires on a medical disability because a leg was lost in combat.

He chooses to live remote, on a family farm of several generations. Disability pension plus income from the farm suffices to feed him. The VA provides transport to a NOT nearby hospital.

This guy wants to vote. Why would we deny him VBM?


6 posted on 09/23/2024 10:14:20 AM PDT by Owen
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To: DallasBiff

The folks aren’t worried about the guy who lives two hours from Box Elder, they want to use him as an excuse to get a bunch of ballots from SLC, Orem, Provo, etc.

At the time of the founding of our country, men in Virginia could vote wherever they had property, and they would often spend the entire day riding circuit to go to different counties to vote.

These were men of means who had time, but lightly populated remote locations in the west have been around for a LONG time, and somehow, those who wanted to vote found a way to do so not so very long ago.


7 posted on 09/23/2024 10:16:10 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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To: Owen

It was just over a hundred years ago a guy would get on his horse and ride 5 miles to vote. They took it more serious back then. Since women weren’t allowed to vote it gave them a chance to get away from the old lady and hang out with his friends. Didn’t know if bars were closed on Election Day back then. A drunk could get bribed to vote for a beer.

It was ‘16 when 300 Amish in Pennsylvania needed rides to the polls to vote for Trump. They got 1500 volunteers to step up.


8 posted on 09/23/2024 10:19:12 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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Here’s a crazy idea: voting should only take place on election day.*
* Except for those in the military and their deployment makes voting on election day problematic.


9 posted on 09/23/2024 10:19:17 AM PDT by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Trump & Vance, 2024! (Formerly) Goldwater & Thomas Sowell in 2024)
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To: Owen
There are remote locales all over the west. Why would VBM be denied those folks?

Where does this guy get gas for his truck? I doubt he has to travel 3 hours.

10 posted on 09/23/2024 10:20:01 AM PDT by DallasBiff (Apology not accepted.la is not the sharpest knife in the drawer)
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And as doubts around election integrity and rumors of fraud, often without evidence

The gaslighting liars in Big Media just can't help themselves.

11 posted on 09/23/2024 10:20:16 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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Once a month he takes a three-hour drive to Ogden...

And his ballot will inevitably be cast by mail, he said, because the closest ballot drop box and in-person polling location in Box Elder County are both over two hours away.

1. He drives more than that monthly. He should be able to do ⅔ of that drive every four years.

2. This is an example where people can request a mail-in ballot--a normal occurrence in every State. This doesn't require universal mail-in voting. Using this as an excuse is just a way to set up cheating. Every State with universal mail-in voting is either already a one-party State (Democrat) or trending that way.

12 posted on 09/23/2024 10:21:29 AM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: DallasBiff

Washington state has mail balloting.


13 posted on 09/23/2024 10:21:57 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Am Yisrael Chai ~)
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To: DallasBiff

I once remember reading about why my state, Georgia, has so many counties (159). It was explained that a county seat (and court house) was needed in sufficient numbers so that a farmer could get to a court house within a day’s travel time by mule/wagon.

During Sherman’s March to the Sea, he burned nearly every courthouse/county seat his forces came across, destroying irreplaceable records in large quantity. America’s WWII M4 Sherman Tank was named after the SOB. But it should also be noted that its M3 Tank was named “The Stuart.” :0)


14 posted on 09/23/2024 10:23:32 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Owen

Why can’t they REQUEST a ballot to VBM, rather than have ballots sent to every voter’s registration address, which includes a bunch of them that are really the addresses of the NGO that registered the illegal aliens to vote?


15 posted on 09/23/2024 10:29:48 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: DallasBiff

Nothing would happen because people with a need will always be able to request an absentee ballot.

Fact is the US mail is totally insecure as a means of transmitting most ballots.


16 posted on 09/23/2024 10:30:34 AM PDT by Williams (Let's Focus On Electing President Trump)
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To: butterdezillion

Just in my neighborhood I know of people receiving ballots or the form to request a mail ballot, for their kids who moved out of state long ago, etc.
They said they could easily have voted the extra ballots.


17 posted on 09/23/2024 10:32:29 AM PDT by Williams (Let's Focus On Electing President Trump)
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To: NorthMountain

As an election official for 15 years I can tell you that 1. This started with Obama and 2. There is no way to know who voted when you receive a vote-by-mail.


18 posted on 09/23/2024 10:32:41 AM PDT by jdt1138 (Where ever you go, there you are.)
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To: DallasBiff

PSA: The Salt Lake Tribune is rabidly leftist. Think of it as the Utah Times.


19 posted on 09/23/2024 10:39:49 AM PDT by Retrofitted
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To: Williams

I received 3 ballots that were for previous residents where I lived before I bought the house we’re in now. And Nebraska doesn’t mail ballots to everybody. Somebody requested those ballots for people who didn’t live there. That must have been for the 2020 election.


20 posted on 09/23/2024 10:41:50 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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