Posted on 09/09/2024 1:59:14 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
Russia said on Sunday its forces had taken full control of a town in eastern Ukraine as Moscow's forces advance on the strategically important city of Pokrovsk and seek to pierce the Ukrainian defensive front lines. Russian forces, which control about a fifth of Ukraine since invading in February 2022, are advancing in eastern Ukraine in an attempt to take the whole of the Donbas, which is about half the size of the U.S. state of Ohio.
Russia's defense ministry said its forces had taken the town of Novohrodivka, which lies 12 km (7 miles) from Pokrovsk, an important rail and road hub for Ukrainian forces in the area. The town had a population of 14,000 before the war.
Yuri Podolyaka, an influential Ukrainian-born, pro-Russian military blogger, published maps showing Russian forces attacking beyond Novohrodivka in at least two places less than 7 km (4 miles) from Pokrovsk.
(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...
Ukraine can no longer supply troops remaining there.
Russia is very close to a total breakthrough on several areas of the front. I think the only reason they haven’t pushed out the Ukrainian troops in Kursk is to force the Ukrainians to keep sending reinforcement and munitions to Kursk to the detriment of the defense of the Ukraine itself in the east.
Some of the headlines look like they are from 1943 and not from 2024.
Wouldn’t surprise me. Russia is the past master of urban and attritional warfare and they are historically very, very, very good at draining an enemy’s resources through what I have heard termed “aggressive defensive warfare.” They’re *really* bad at straight up offensives (again, historically) but if they can implement a slowly forward creeping defensive line? I don’t think there’s anyone better at it. It’s hideously expensive in terms of men, but they make it work.
Come to think of it, has anyone ever managed to *stop* Russia when they’ve managed to generate the above conditions?
Soviet Afghanistan War and First Chechen War
Afghanistan doesn’t apply as they weren’t able to get creeping lines going - the mountainous terrain precluded that.
First Chechen? Maybe, but only because they encountered (again) mountainous terrain. The Russians were able to get it to work in the plains.
USA suffered ass kicking in Afghanistan as well. No one had conquered that mountainous tribal country infested with Islamic fanatics.
They can retreat Westward on highway 50 on foot, until they meet Ukrainian transportation coming for them where the road is good.
However, that would leave them exposed. They would risk attack if they did not surrender, if their officers would allow surrender.
The Rooters-Newsmax article offers no positive Narrative until the second to last paragraph, and the last line, so it looks bleak.
Sometimes the speed of the war seems like 1943 headlines, however the speed of the 2024 war is due to the development of 2024 weapons and tactics and the adaptation to those by both sides.
Wow!
Such fantastic news for the Russian war effort.IN the first month of the war, they had managed to take control of about 20% of Ukraine. Now, almost 3 years later, they’ve managed to advance to the point of controlling about 20% of the country. At that rate, 5 years from now, they will have advanced to controlling about 20% of Ukraine. The Ukrainians don’t stand a chance. Surrender now, before the Russians advance towards controlling 20% of the country.
Yeah, Teddy, it'll probably end up like the Second Chechen War.
Like the Chechens, the Uke Nazis will be killing each other and their own women and children by the thousands, for the privilege of surrendering unconditionally to Russia.
Except for the few craven cowards who will be given sanctuary by the US in places like Boston.
The Chechens repay America every Boston Marathon day by sending Boston Kids off with a Bang!
The Uke Nazis that escape will follow suit.
That should please a Marxist like you.
“”””USA suffered ass kicking in Afghanistan as well.””””
When you word our politicians leaving Afghanistan like that you make it sound like our military men were being defeated on the battlefield.
Trump reduced military personnel from 13,500 to 1500 before Biden took over. Our military fought the longest war in Afghanistan. Result? Trump took most soldiers out, Biden too all remaining out. Was it because we were winning that Trump reduced forces by 90%?
Since when Guerilla war is fought on a battle field?
Our soldiers were not being beaten in combat, on the battlefields where the combat happens, when a fight takes place it is a battlefield.
Lefties also mock our GIs in this way when they talk about Vietnam, as though our GIs were weak and inferior troops instead of separating a political loss from the soldiers, in losing the war.
Nobody said our soldiers are weak. Problem we can not win guerilla wars. Almost nobody has won guerilla wars against a determined enemy. Why our leaders ignore this simple fact is beyond me.
“ Such fantastic news for the Russian war effort.IN the first month of the war, they had managed to take control of about 20% of Ukraine. Now, almost 3 years later, they’ve managed to advance to the point of controlling about 20% of the country”
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You’ve ignored what Russia’s STATED GOALS are. The primary goal was, and remains, to ATTRIT Ukraine’s military. In that first month a minuscule amount of the Ukrainian military was destroyed. But the situation was set up for the Russians to SUBSEQUENTLY grind away at the Ukrainian military personnel …. killing and maiming a hugely disproportionate number of them. And THAT is what the Russians have been doing. The Ukrainian military equipment losses could be replaced (at least initially). Replacing military manpower losses has become more and more difficult and is approaching the point of being, for the most part, impossible.
“You’ve ignored what Russia’s STATED GOALS are. The primary goal was, and remains, to ATTRIT Ukraine’s military”
Didnt Putin just last week said the goal was to take the Donbas?
https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2024/09/05/putin-says-main-goal-is-to-capture-ukraines-donbas-a86267
“The aim of the enemy [in Kursk] was to force us to worry, hustle, divert troops and to stop our offensive in key areas, especially in the Donbas, the liberation of which is our main primary objective,”
Yes, that was a second goal.
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