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Georgia school shooting live updates: Suspect's father arrested on charges including involuntary manslaughter
NBC News ^ | September 5, 2024

Posted on 09/05/2024 6:41:42 PM PDT by grundle

Colin Gray gave his son an AR-15 style rifle as a gift, two law enforcement sources said. It's unclear when he gave the gift, but it was after authorities interviewed the father and son last year in connection with threats to carry out a school shooting.

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1 posted on 09/05/2024 6:41:42 PM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle

A 14 Y/O CITY KID?????


2 posted on 09/05/2024 6:49:02 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: grundle

How can helping your son exercise his 2nd Amendment rights of owning a gun be a crime?

This is another way to scare parent of the next generation. The anti-2A crowd is ruthless. Stay locked and fully loaded, my friend.


3 posted on 09/05/2024 6:53:36 PM PDT by Racketeer
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To: grundle

It’s another way of isolating the gun and making it almost seem as though it is causing the violence rather than the person shooting


4 posted on 09/05/2024 6:53:44 PM PDT by ac-rep
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To: grundle

I got my first rifle at age 9. I took a Remington 870 12 gauge to school to give a demonstration speech in 5th grade. Showed how to break it down, clean it & safely load it.
I didn’t have thoughts about using it, until after school.


5 posted on 09/05/2024 7:15:09 PM PDT by Fireone ("and dumb & silent we may be led, like sheep, to the Slaughter." G. Washington 1783)
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To: Racketeer

The father gave the son the gun AFTER the FBI told the father that the son had threatened to carry out a school shooting.


6 posted on 09/05/2024 7:17:44 PM PDT by grundle
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To: ridesthemiles
"A 14 Y/O CITY KID?????"

...... Yup ..... Wait 'till you see the big October Surprise Coming to "Shake" things up!

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7 posted on 09/05/2024 7:29:58 PM PDT by R_Kangel ("A nation of sheep will beget a nation ruled by wolves")
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To: grundle

“Colin Gray gave his son an AR-15 style rifle as a gift”

So what?

As long as he did not intentionally allow unsupervised access and control of it. how would that be illegal?

I think this is pretty common, with the understanding that the gun will not belong to the kid until he turns 18, and in the meantime, he can shoot it only under supervision.


8 posted on 09/05/2024 7:44:44 PM PDT by ltc8k6 ( .)
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To: grundle

If the FBI believed the kid had done that, they would have taken action. There was no belief among law enforcement that the kid had actually been the one to make the threats, imo.

I doubt the FBI told the father the kid was guilty of making the threats and then took no action.


9 posted on 09/05/2024 7:47:23 PM PDT by ltc8k6 ( .)
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To: Racketeer

smh... your 14 y.o. son who has threatened to shoot up a school has forfeited his 2nd amendment rights.
Lock up the dad and throw away the key.


10 posted on 09/05/2024 7:58:45 PM PDT by nbenyo
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To: grundle

Prosecutors out to make a reputation for themselves. Not to mention all the tax dollars they’ll rake in the longer they can drag this through the courts and media kicbacks for “leaks”.


11 posted on 09/05/2024 8:00:00 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again," )
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Maybe make a name for themselves, or just catch Fani’s eye...become her new boy-toy. ,


12 posted on 09/05/2024 8:35:21 PM PDT by gundog (It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: ltc8k6

obviously, the father did not take adequate safeguards to prevent unsupervised access. Especially after being warned by law enforcement and promising to do this.
Amazing that people are defending the father after his negligence, and abdication of parental responsibility, resulted in 4 deaths and 9 injuries.


13 posted on 09/05/2024 8:44:52 PM PDT by nbenyo
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To: nbenyo

I didn’t defend anything but the right to a fair judgement.


14 posted on 09/05/2024 9:01:16 PM PDT by ltc8k6 ( .)
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To: grundle
"The father gave the son the gun AFTER the FBI told the father that the son had threatened to carry out a school shooting."

True. But, if the father should've known that his son was dangerous after the FBI interview, why didn't the FBI know?

Shouldn't the FBI be culpable? After all, the FBI received information that this kid was making threats, and they determined he wasn't a danger.

15 posted on 09/05/2024 11:21:35 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: ltc8k6

Gun safes . They work well if they are used. I gave my 11 year old grandson a .243 rifle for Christmas and we trained and hunted with it. He harvested a beautiful 7 point whitetail with it. Then it went back in the safe. Nothing wrong with that when your moral compass is working.


16 posted on 09/06/2024 4:04:07 AM PDT by spincaster
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To: Tired of Taxes

If you go back to the source - problem is that LE had no probable cause, wasn’t much they could do other than warn the father.
The threshold to arrest someone is considerably higher than a reasonable conclusion that the kid made the threats. And it should be.
The father failed to take this seriously. At a minimum it’s manslaughter, given the specificity of the threat prob shades over into murder. But that’s for a jury to decide.


17 posted on 09/08/2024 12:16:05 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Good points. I can’t disagree. In certain cases, the parent should be charged if a minor child commits a crime as a result of the parent’s irresponsibility. In the Crumbley case, for example, the parents not only left a gun unsecured at home, but also they refused to take their son home from school that day.

In this case, though, the father might argue that he believed the FBI determined his son wasn’t a threat. Another question is, even though he bought the rifle for his son, did he allow his son unfettered access to it? Or, did he take proper precautions, but his son still found a way to get his hands on it?

We’ll find out soon enough. Whatever the case, if the news reports are true, these parents aren’t exactly mother and father of the year, that’s for sure.


18 posted on 09/09/2024 12:38:26 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes
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To: Tired of Taxes

I think we’re in agreement. Mama is drug addict, no wonder kid’s so messed up.


19 posted on 09/09/2024 9:06:57 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ecce Crucem Domini, fugite partes adversae. Vicit Leo de Tribu Iuda, Radix David, Alleluia!)
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