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New York to Pay $155 Per Megawatt Hour for Wind, Current Rate is $36 Per MWH
MishTalk ^ | August 24, 2024 | Mike Shedlock

Posted on 08/26/2024 5:16:42 PM PDT by george76

It currently costs NY about $36 per MWH for energy. But the state demanded wind. Let’s discuss the amazing bottom line results.

So Much for So Little

The Wall Street Journal asks Why Is New York Paying So Much for Wind Power?

New York state signed a contract in June to buy electricity generated by two large wind farms, Empire Wind 1 and Sunrise Wind, off the coast of Long Island. The projects are expected to begin in 2026 and 2027, with power delivered to Brooklyn (Empire) and Long Island (Sunrise). The state will pay $155 and $146 per megawatt-hour, respectively. These prices are steep, at least four times the average grid cost paid over the past year.

States agree to pay wind-power operators—known as the “offtake price”—based on a project’s “break-even cost,” the estimated bill for building and operating the wind farm over its useful life. That is undoubtedly part of the problem. The offshore wind business off the East Coast is in turmoil. Operators have canceled projects from Massachusetts to Maryland that were due to be constructed in the next four years. Some have been delayed, while others have renegotiated their contracts at prices 30% to 50% higher than originally promised.

Two widely quoted sources of break-even costs are the U.S. Energy Information Administration and Lazard, an investment bank. In its most recent estimates, the EIA suggests the average break-even cost of offshore wind farms, adjusted to 2024 prices, is $131 per megawatt-hour, not counting government subsidies, and $101 per megawatt-hour after allowing for basic tax credits. The latter figure is what matters, because every offshore wind farm expects to take advantage of investment or production tax credits under the Inflation Reduction Act.

EIA Says Wind is Not Economical

Let’s pause right there because wind is absurd by any measure.

The cost of wind is $131 per MWH without credits and $101 with $30 in tax credits according to the EIA.

A handout of $30 is an 83 percent subsidy (30/36) and the deal still is still nearly 100% per MWH in the red, losing $35 per MWH over the cost of buying energy at market rates.

A Sweetheart Deal

The deal (thank you team Biden and New York), will pay $155 and $146 per megawatt-hour, respectively to Empire Wind 1 and Sunrise Wind.

The owner-operators of the two farms—Equinor for Empire and Orsted for Sunrise—are two of the top five global wind-farm investors and operators. Equinor is Norway’s state oil company, while Orsted previously was Denmark’s.

With a break even cost of $101 (thanks to subsidies), Equinor will make $54 per MWH and Orsted will make a mere $45 per MWH on something whose total cost should be $36 per MWH.

The Journal calculates Equinor and Orsted (foreign corporations) will each receive a total subsidy of more than $3 billion courtesy of U.S. taxpayers.

The Journal asks “Did New York sign an agreement that allows large wind-farm operators to earn unreasonably high after-tax profits at the expense of its residents?”

I believe the math speaks for itself.

Not only will New Yorkers pay over four times the going rate for energy, the US will send $3 billion to foreign companies to do so.

Congrats team Biden and New York State.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: biden; bidenomics; eia; electricity; energy; followthemoney; fraud; greennewscam; kamalanomics; moneylaundering; mwh; newyork; ny; offshorewind; renewables; ripoff; scam; wind; windenergy; windfarms
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1 posted on 08/26/2024 5:16:42 PM PDT by george76
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that blows...


2 posted on 08/26/2024 5:21:22 PM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value and makes people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: george76

Electric vehicles will cost more than $25/gallon comparatively real soon.


3 posted on 08/26/2024 5:22:18 PM PDT by CodeToad (Rule #1: The elites want you dead.)
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To: george76

Couldn’t happen to nicer people.


4 posted on 08/26/2024 5:24:57 PM PDT by Vision (Woke is communism and it has no place in America. Election Reform Now! Obama is an evildoer.)
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To: george76

I argue this all the time with liberals. I keep telling them that the idea of renewables is nice, because who doesn’t want free energy, but they aren’t ready yet and may never be.

At best, renewables only work on an immediate level, such as a farm for wind, or as a secondary source of power such as a big battery that you charge up. They don’t work as primary sources of power.


5 posted on 08/26/2024 5:28:25 PM PDT by Jonty30 (Genghis Khan did not have the most descendants. His father had more. )
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To: george76
It currently costs NY about $36 per MWH for energy.

The state will pay $155 and $146 per megawatt-hour, respectively.

That is effectively a 430% premium for wind power (for the $155/megawatt power.

NY rate payers should scream bloody murder.

6 posted on 08/26/2024 5:29:38 PM PDT by Pontiac (esse welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: george76

WOW! This is what happens when you let clueless commie SOB government turds make policy and decisions.
It is ALWAYS bad for the people. Morons.


7 posted on 08/26/2024 5:31:46 PM PDT by vpintheak (Sometimes you’re the windshield, sometimes you’re the bug. )
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To: george76

Ahmed’s Battery Swap Shop

EV Batteries are charged up in sunny Florida using solar energy and shipped up north.

Swaps take about as long as filling a tank.

With Ahmed, there’s no massive upfront cost, just a modest monthly lease payment and a competitive swap charge.

And yes, you can use the electricity from your car to light up your house.

Go green with Ahmed.


8 posted on 08/26/2024 5:33:53 PM PDT by Brian Griffin ("Why didn’t she do it three and a half years ago?”)
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To: Pontiac

They should scream bloody murder. Instead they’ll keep voting for Hochul and Her Henchmen.


9 posted on 08/26/2024 5:33:56 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!s)
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To: george76
Ever since the days of Al Smith, New York has been paying the price. Bigly.

10 posted on 08/26/2024 5:33:57 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: Pontiac

At that price difference, it’s worthwhile to build a big fan to keep the wind turbine running 24 hours per day.


11 posted on 08/26/2024 5:34:18 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (7/13/2024:The day the Democrats and their SA chose assassination as their primary political tool.)
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To: george76

Who’s pocketing the profits wasn’t it Bob Dylan who sang:

“you got adulterers in churches and pornography in the schools, you got gangsters in power and lawbreakers making rules..

When you gonna wake up and strengthen the things that remain”


12 posted on 08/26/2024 5:36:36 PM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER REV. NIEMOLLER)
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To: george76

Good. “renewable” energy is an asinine scam. If you buy into that and are not either >90yrs old (i.e., don’t give a shite anymore)or A democratic base voter (i.e., that means an IQ < 85); you deserve all the hurt you get.

It is like buying an EV — you are a moron.


13 posted on 08/26/2024 5:37:33 PM PDT by bobbo666
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"Not only will New Yorkers pay over four times the going rate for energy, the US will send $3 billion to foreign companies to do so."

And the DC lawyers and "One Worlders" laugh all the way to the bank...

But, the New Yorker's just keep voting for it. So, I guess they get what they deserve...

14 posted on 08/26/2024 5:38:38 PM PDT by unread (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC..!)
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To: george76

I like it. It should be at least $500.00 AMWH for them. Stupidity should hurt.


15 posted on 08/26/2024 5:40:35 PM PDT by sport
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To: bobbo666

Sounds like price gouging.


16 posted on 08/26/2024 5:40:44 PM PDT by SteelPSUGOP (UGHT)
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To: Night Hides Not

The problem is that these producers are such a small percentage of the power produced and consumed that the average consumer will not notice the change when combined with inflation.

Your average rate payer doesn’t pay attention to this sort of news.


17 posted on 08/26/2024 5:41:02 PM PDT by Pontiac (esse welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: george76

$36 -> $101

Inflation Reduction Act

With Harris & Hochul we won’t have to import poor people, they’ll make plenty more domestically.


18 posted on 08/26/2024 5:42:31 PM PDT by Brian Griffin ("Why didn’t she do it three and a half years ago?”)
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To: Vision

I agree. New York taxpayers absolutely deserve this—for electing so many democrats!


19 posted on 08/26/2024 5:43:36 PM PDT by volare737 (Diversity is something to be overcome, not celebrated.)
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To: heavy metal

Kommiela......


20 posted on 08/26/2024 5:43:56 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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