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Robert Jenrick criticised for saying people shouting ‘Allahu Akbar’ should be arrested
The Guardian ^ | Aug 7 | Jessica Elgot Deputy political editor

Posted on 08/07/2024 8:47:31 AM PDT by RandFan

Robert Jenrick has been criticised by Muslim parliamentarians for saying police should “immediately arrest” any protesters shouting “Allahu Akbar”, the Arabic phrase which means God is great.

The Tory leadership candidate was speaking on Sky News about the accusations that police have been treating far-right marches and violence more harshly than other protests.

Jenrick said on Sky News he had been angered by the way that pro-Palestinian demonstrations had been policed. “I have been very critical of police in the past, particularly around the attitude of some police forces to the protests we saw since 7 October.

“I thought it was quite wrong that somebody could shout ‘Allahu Akbar’ on the streets of London and not be immediately arrested, project genocidal chants on to Big Ben and not be immediately arrested. That attitude is wrong and I’ll always call out the police for it.”

Jenrick, who is one of the favourites to win the Conservative leadership, was criticised by the Conservative peer Sayeeda Warsi and the Labour MP Naz Shah.

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1 posted on 08/07/2024 8:47:31 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: RandFan

Depending on the setting, may shoot them instead?


2 posted on 08/07/2024 8:50:01 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Biden's Given His Farewell Address, So When Is He Leaving?)
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To: RandFan

and why not? Christians are arrested for praying...SILENTLY.


3 posted on 08/07/2024 8:52:33 AM PDT by Qwapisking ("IF the Second goes first the First goes second" L.Star )
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To: RandFan

Free speech for my voters but not for yours.


4 posted on 08/07/2024 8:57:22 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: RandFan

“Alluhu Akbar” is “hate speech”


5 posted on 08/07/2024 9:00:03 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: RandFan
police should “immediately arrest” any protesters shouting “Allahu Akbar”

And deport them.

6 posted on 08/07/2024 9:02:36 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (TANSTAAFL)
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To: RandFan

It really means “Our god is greater”, ie, “We are greater”.


7 posted on 08/07/2024 9:06:30 AM PDT by dodger
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To: Reno89519

My initial reaction as well. Minus the “depending” clause.


8 posted on 08/07/2024 9:07:43 AM PDT by xoxox
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To: Reno89519

...and that’s actually a very good point. That proclamation is usually followed by some sort of mass violence.


9 posted on 08/07/2024 9:08:46 AM PDT by xoxox
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To: RandFan

OK, then why do you do when someone shouts Deus Vult?


10 posted on 08/07/2024 9:12:04 AM PDT by wjr123 (NPR)
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To: RandFan
the Arabic phrase which means God is great.

I've read quite a few times that the phrase means Allah is greater, or Allah is the greatest. Surely no institutions in the Western press would clean up a phrase that means Islam is superior and present it in a politically correct form.

11 posted on 08/07/2024 9:21:11 AM PDT by Will88 ((The only people opposing voter ID are those benefiting from voter fraud.))
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To: Will88
Not meaning to quibble, but the literal translation would be "The God (the name Allah has a very unique structure in Arabic, with a little "w" shaped diacritic mark above the "L" letter making it doubled and deeply guttural in pronunciation) is Most Great / Greatest". In and of itself a statement any Christian or Jew can agree with.

But its use is akin to "Banzai" in a bayonet charge cry on Saipan. Upon hearing it safeties need to come off and the source identified.

Remember, "Islam" isn't a noun. It's a verb, meaning "Submit!", imperative case.

12 posted on 08/07/2024 9:48:10 AM PDT by katana
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To: Reno89519

Beat me to it. I’d hit the ground if I heard that shouted.


13 posted on 08/07/2024 10:36:42 AM PDT by KingofZion
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To: RandFan

Akbar is the superlative form.


14 posted on 08/07/2024 10:37:48 AM PDT by combat_boots
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To: RandFan

FTA: Jenrick, who is one of the favourites to win the Conservative leadership, was criticised by the Conservative peer Sayeeda Warsi and the Labour MP Naz Shah.

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Sayeeda Warsi and Naz Shah....I think I see the issue there....


15 posted on 08/07/2024 10:48:03 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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To: katana

Thank you for that excellent explanation.


16 posted on 08/07/2024 10:49:32 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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To: RandFan
Jenrick... was criticised by the Conservative peer Sayeeda Warsi and the Labour MP Naz Shah.

I'll bet he was.

17 posted on 08/07/2024 10:59:48 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: katana

I think the most relevant question is: what does the phrase Allahu Akbar mean to those who use it when confronting, or attacking someone of a different belief system. Little doubt it means that their god, and their prophet and their belief system are superior to that of whomever they might be confronting over some dispute.

What does the phrase mean to those who use it?


18 posted on 08/07/2024 11:09:24 AM PDT by Will88 ((The only people opposing voter ID are those benefiting from voter fraud.))
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To: Reno89519

“ Depending on the setting, may shoot them instead?”

Exactly - skip the arrest part. No wonder he’s facing criticism


19 posted on 08/07/2024 3:11:26 PM PDT by NWFree (Somebody has to say it 🤪)
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