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BREAKING NEWS Donald Trump picks J.D. Vance as running mate opting for a MAGA favorite in last-minute decision
Daily Mail UK ^ | July 15, 2024 | Bob Crilly

Posted on 07/15/2024 12:27:05 PM PDT by Morgana

Donald Trump has picked Ohio senator J.D. Vance as his running mate, choosing a grassroots favorite ahead of more seasoned political operators.

The former president left it until the last possible moment, using all his showman skills to leave the world guessing, before opting for 39-year-old Vance after the Republican National Convention had already begun in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

Vance swept to national attention when he published his bestselling memoir 'Hillbilly Elegy,' in 2016, the year Trump was elected president.

He has been a senator for less than two years but has established himself as one of the fiercest defenders of Trump’s 'Make America Great Again' agenda, especially when it comes to foreign policy, trade and immigration.

The former venture capitalist and U.S. Marine had initially been critical of Trump.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; h1b; jdvance; macho; post53
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To: Rennes Templar

Vivek - the ONLY guy on the national stage who consistently talks about what is ESSENTIAL to restore America’s Free Constitutional Republic: DISMANTLE THE UNCONSTITUTIONAL PORTION OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

All else is window dressing and misses the mark.


221 posted on 07/15/2024 6:18:38 PM PDT by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ (Jude 3) and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: Republican Wildcat

The Vance pick sure has flushed out a lot of racist, xenophobic jackasses who don’t have a clue.


222 posted on 07/15/2024 6:28:42 PM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
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To: Bobbyvotes

In my experience Indians are overwhelmingly frequently software programmers.


223 posted on 07/15/2024 6:28:42 PM PDT by subterfuge (I'm a pure-blood!)
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To: princess leah; escapefromboston

The film, Hillbilly Elegy, is on NetFlix.


224 posted on 07/15/2024 6:33:46 PM PDT by woodpusher
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To: Freee-dame

Taken very far, that sounds like a formula for depopulation.


225 posted on 07/15/2024 7:20:44 PM PDT by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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To: Mr. K

Well, somebody says he is. If they say it loudly and long enough someone may believe them. If he were a drill bit we’d say he was pulled green. Knowing something without understanding it does not add up to experience. I’m getting weary of hot shot brilliant kids that think all it takes is smarts. Being ver smart does not always add up to being very successful. Being very successful does not always mean you are very smart either. Yeah, I know about his background and how he grew up as a poor black child.


226 posted on 07/15/2024 7:24:30 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (The Government that got us in this mess is not the Government that can get us out of it.)
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To: Lumper20

Unfortunately, most of those American ladies in college these days are whacko leftists.


227 posted on 07/15/2024 7:26:52 PM PDT by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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To: Jim W N

Well, he seems to like dot indians a lot so there is that.


228 posted on 07/15/2024 7:27:00 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (The Government that got us in this mess is not the Government that can get us out of it.)
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To: Sequoyah101

“ how he grew up as a poor black child”

Are you referring to Scott or Vince? You are responding to a post about Vince who is definitely not black.


229 posted on 07/15/2024 7:28:43 PM PDT by Freee-dame ( )
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To: Republican Wildcat

One does not follow the other. Be logical and honest.


230 posted on 07/15/2024 7:31:09 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (The Government that got us in this mess is not the Government that can get us out of it.)
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To: rxsid

There’s the agenda after Trump, too. Dr. Carson would just be too old, I’m afraid (which may well contribute to “low energy” - dang, I’m certainly not as energetic as I once was!), even though at present Ben certainly still seems to have all his marbles.

IMO, if Trump was really worried about winning the election, he might pick Carson. If Trump is feeling confident about the election, but worried about carrying MAGA forward in the future, someone like Vance may be a better pick, IF Vance stays with it. MAGA and populism are not exactly the same thing...


231 posted on 07/15/2024 7:35:31 PM PDT by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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To: woodpusher
Abortion will be at best third, behind the economy (inflation) and immigration.

I’m 100% pro-life, but I don’t think it’s politically viable to say that abortion is now an issue for the states, after the Supreme Court struck down Roe v. Wade, but then to turn around and make it a federal issue again by trying to pass a federal ban. Before we go any farther with this issue, we first have to decide upon a consistent position. Is it a states’ rights issue, or is it a federal issue? It can’t be both.

I believe that the life of any person, born or unborn, can’t be up to the varying whims of state law. We don’t treat murder that way, and abortion IS murder. It is wholly appropriate and necessary for fundamental rights to be protected at the federal level. BUT, right now in the wake of the end of Roe v. Wade, our side’s position on this issue is incoherent. Our representatives keep talking about abortion being a state issue, usually in order to deflect the ridiculous panic over ending Roe v. Wade, but then turn around and talk about enacting a federal ban. That contradiction is a sure-fire way to cause independent or only nominally Republican voters to distrust Republicans.

We shouldn’t compromise our principles in order to try to reel in more votes at the margins, but on the other hand we are facing an uphill battle on this issue and as we have seen before, it has the potential to derail any given election. I think Trump has been wise to finesse the issue a bit in this election, because if we don’t regain power we have no ability to do anything.

232 posted on 07/15/2024 7:48:00 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: mmichaels1970; TBP

Egad. That was how I read it too. If he were serious, I wouldn’t think much of him. In that context, including it didn’t make sense to me because it didn’t even occur to me that it was meant as anything other than sarcasm.

People are getting crazy about this. In the end, people, it is politics. It is what we have always had in this great and crazy country of ours. This is no different in that respect.

However, with a country going a trillion more dollars into debt every 100 days and millions of invaders crossing our border undetected each year, and a smoldering world getting ready to cook off any minute now...this election does matter. That is where it IS different.

I think Vance will be fine. We need to wrestle power from these tyrannical statists from both sides who hold the reins of that power. He can help.


233 posted on 07/15/2024 8:04:24 PM PDT by rlmorel (In Today's Democrat America, The $5 Dollar Bill is the New $1 Dollar Bill.)
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To: escapefromboston
Hopefully Vance doesn’t try to import more people from India like his family.

The horror!

https://www.loc.gov/item/usrep261204/

United States v. Thind, 204 U,S, 201, 210-211 (1923)

The term "Aryan" has to do with linguistic and not at all with physical characteristics, and it would seem reasonably clear that mere resemblance in language, indicating a common linguistic root buried in remotely ancient soil, is altogether inadequate to prove common racial origin. There is, and can be, no assurance that the so-celled Aryan language was not spoken by a variety of races living in proximity to one another. Our own history has witnessed the adoption of the English tongue by millions of Negroes, whose descendants can never be classified racially with the descendants of white persons notwithstanding both may speak a common root language.

The word "Caucasian" is in scarcely better repute, It is at best a conventional term, with an altogether fortuitous origin, which, under scientific manipulation, has come to include far more than the unscientific mind suspects. According to Keane, for example, (The World's Peoples, 24, 28, 307, et seq.) it includes not only the Hindu but some of the Polynesians, (that is the Maori, Tahitians, Samoans, Hawaiians and others), the Hamites of Africa, upon the ground of the Caucasic cast of their features, though in color they range from brown to black. We venture to think that the average well informed white American would learn with some degree of astonishment that the race to which he belongs is made up of such heterogeneous elements.


234 posted on 07/15/2024 8:14:34 PM PDT by woodpusher
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To: woodpusher

Interesting post, anyways I hope he doesn’t want to import any more people from India.


235 posted on 07/15/2024 8:24:42 PM PDT by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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To: Morgana

So the VP pick is:
1) a senator, which a whiney rino governor will choose his replacement,
2) made MANY inflammatory remarks re: PDJT,
3) pushed the covid vax, and hasn’t walked back his statements re: firing people for not taking the jab,
4) another plain vanilla metrosexual who joined the military for a political career.

How does he bring votes that PDJT didn’t already have?

How does he help support the MAGA movement past 2028?

Seems like the only thing he’s got going for him, is that he’s young......


236 posted on 07/15/2024 8:25:13 PM PDT by Oil Object Insp
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To: Jim W N

I like him but I wonder if he would hold up to the pressure when push comes to shove.


237 posted on 07/15/2024 8:31:30 PM PDT by Rennes Templar (Come back, President Trump.)
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To: noiseman
I’m 100% pro-life, but I don’t think it’s politically viable to say that abortion is now an issue for the states, after the Supreme Court struck down Roe v. Wade, but then to turn around and make it a federal issue again by trying to pass a federal ban. Before we go any farther with this issue, we first have to decide upon a consistent position. Is it a states’ rights issue, or is it a federal issue? It can’t be both.

Right now it is a State issue. I can't find the right to an abortion in the Constitution, emanating from a penumbra or anywhere else. For decades, I have argued it should be under the jurisdiction of the States. At the same time, I argued that if and when it gets to the States, then the Pro-life advocates will advocate for Federal jurisdiction. It seems everyone wants Federal control, as long as the Federal position is the same as theirs. If it is up to the way the political wind blows, Federal control will certainly result at times in abortion on demand.

I believe that the life of any person, born or unborn, can’t be up to the varying whims of state law.

That is better than being up to the varying whims of Federal law. For a half century, abortion was considered a constitutional right. Now that each State can do as it pleases, the folks in one State yearn to tell the other States what they must or must not do.

We don’t treat murder that way, and abortion IS murder.

Murder is a legal concept and the law defines what it is. Abortion is most definitely not murder. It could be tomorrow if a law were enacted declaring it to be murder. It is a killing, but not all killings are murder. If a law says abortion is legal, prosecution is impossible.

I believe a significant majority believe abortion is acceptable in cases of rape, incest, or to save the life of the mother.

The earliest Federal murder statute did not apply to places not under the sole and exclusive jurisdiction of the United States. That made virtually all murders prosecutable under State law, and the elements of the crime and the punishment varied from state to state.

1 Statutes at Large 112, An Act for the Punishment of certain Crimes against the United States, April 30, 1790:

At 113:

Sec. 3 And be it [further] enacted, That if any person or persons shall, within any fort, arsenal, dock-yard, magazine, or in any other place or district of country, under the sole and exclusive jurisdiction of the United States, commit the crime of wilful murder, such person or persons on being thereof convicted shall suffer death.

238 posted on 07/15/2024 9:25:53 PM PDT by woodpusher
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To: woodpusher; All

Right after the convention was over this evening, Jack Posobiec and Charlie Kirk discuss their support and approval of JD Vance, on this Rumble video, beginning at the point where there is 2:26:00 left. Their segment lasts about 45 minutes.

https://rumble.com/v570wey-rnc-2024-conventionmilwaukee-wisconsin.html


239 posted on 07/15/2024 10:31:04 PM PDT by Texan4Life
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To: Texan4Life

Thanks for the link. Vance seems to be a nice guy.


240 posted on 07/15/2024 11:51:40 PM PDT by woodpusher
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