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1 posted on 07/08/2024 2:45:36 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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Soviet Russia never signed the pre-ww2 geneva convention.
all combatants that target innocent children are criminal.


2 posted on 07/08/2024 2:51:06 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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Right below this article is one on Hamas.

FR seems united in condemning Hamas-they’re the aggressor and as terrorists deserve to get their butts kicked.

Yet on R-UK threads, it’s like the Hatfields and McCoys.

Can someone explain why the same folks who are united on Hamas are fractured over here?


3 posted on 07/08/2024 2:54:02 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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Zeeper posts article from Ukraine propaganda site about Russian propaganda. Really.

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4 posted on 07/08/2024 2:56:12 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (🦅 MAGADONIAN ⚔️ )
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False flag, 100%. I wouldn’t put it past Zelenskyy to order a hit on this site to generate more sympathy for Ukraine especially in the West.


5 posted on 07/08/2024 3:01:26 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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Russia has never evolved from their Mongol Horde roots.


6 posted on 07/08/2024 3:05:04 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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The equivalent of Biden blaming Trump for his poor debate performance...

Ruzzia bombed a children’s hospital, pure and simple. They targeted it because that’s how good their weapons are... Is that not the case, or is it that they can’t aim worth sh*t!... Either way it’s on them and nobody else.


7 posted on 07/08/2024 3:05:28 PM PDT by jerod (Nazis were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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Strange that videos were so quickly released when filming attacks is illegal in Ukraine, monitored by the SBU and punished when tracked down

The identity of the missile type is in dispute. Any very sharp clear stills are almost certainly a photoshop.

But as several experts have noted: if a building has windows blown out, walls still standing, peppered with shrapnel, and no big smoking hole where it used to stand….it wasn’t hit by a targeted hypersonic. But by an AD missile.

Btw the Russians already went back already and hit other military targets in the same city area. With an air raid notice of incoming, in advance, why were civilians nearby not moved into bunkers?


9 posted on 07/08/2024 3:09:10 PM PDT by silverleaf (“Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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The Ukrainians/Western propagandists are making stuff up with unsourced claims.

3 possibilities: 1 targeted attack, 2 Russian missile went off course, 3 Ukrainian counter-fire missile fell on the hospital.

A few basic observations:

1. Russia gains nothing from an attack on a children's hospital and the resulting casualties - only the opposite as the resulting NATO propaganda machine hypes it up the wazoo. It makes absolutely no military sense to shoot yourself in the foot in such a manner. If one says it was to intimidate or demoralize Ukraine, I would point out that this only makes sense as part of a sustained strategy, not an occasional strike or one-off. So when this happens 100X in a week then we can talk about that idea, but otherwise it's not reality.

2. Military Strategy Channel over on Youtube identified 3 potential targets near the hospital - an industrial complex 1300 meters to the north, a govern aviation ministry building just down the block from the hospital, and an aviation college building a kilometer or two to the south. So it's possibly an off-course missile or one damaged by counter-fire could have caused the hospital hit.

3. A number of times NATO/Ukrainians have screamed about supposed "attacks on civilians" (or on Poland in one incident) from Russian missile strikes, only to have it turn out to be from falling Ukrainian missiles fired in failed counter-fire. If I had to guess, this would be my first choice just based on the prior track record.

I suppose a 4th option would be a deliberate false flag by NATO elements, but I won't go there...

11 posted on 07/08/2024 3:09:18 PM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
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These Ukrainians make Baghdad Bob look honest.


13 posted on 07/08/2024 3:18:02 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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17 posted on 07/08/2024 3:20:53 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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This is a cruise missile attack from today.

https://x.com/i/status/1810413605176631727

Notice the angle of attack.


21 posted on 07/08/2024 3:26:07 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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The people of the US have go to realize that they don’t know two things:

1. What war is and how it’s fought
2. How other countries interpret war and how they fight it

One of the biggest reasons the US had garnished respect from foreign countries concerning our military is that we used to win wars. We took the hit and never gave an inch. And soon they didn’t want to pay the price.

But those days are over. Our leadership no longer believes in winning or the threat of their losing. And without those threats we are nothing more than a weak, tired third world country with a lot of possibilities that have too much dust on them to make available. We have lost the three major conflicts we have fought over the past 50 years: Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan. Bing West, a former colleague at the Pentagon and the Naval War College divides blame for each of these losses among three hubs — namely, the military, the policy-makers, and the popular mood among the people of the country. He argues correctly that the policy hub, or the policy-makers, were primarily responsible for the failures. This attitude started back in the 1960’s and has never lost it’s momentum. And even the conflicts we didn’t go totally into like the Ukraine, Kosovo, Syria, Lybia, and others has weakened our status by reputation to the point that we are no longer a world leader, just a big mouth.

But when it all comes down to killing people face to face, we have no intention. We escalated the Vietnam war over a lie concerning an attack in the Bay of Tonkin. The US people were lied to. We entered Iraq to squelch a building of a WMD force that the people were told didn’t exist. The US people were lied to. We entered Afghanistan but the Obama administration never publicly or privately praised Iran for its help in Afghanistan but did award them back their money and overlooked a number of incidents. Iran detested the Taliban. Trump started the withdraw from Afghanistan with the date set at May 1. And Biden blew it. So we enter conflicts we couldn’t win and got our tails kicked everytime we did with the including of backing out looking defenseless. And other countries see this and consider us weak. They aren’t far from wrong. And it all boils down to the policy makers and what they have fed the voters all these years through the media. They have put us at risk.

wy69


26 posted on 07/08/2024 3:39:36 PM PDT by whitney69
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From the article: "...A targeted attack by a Kh-101 missile on a children's hospital." - Ukrainian "military expert" Oleksandr Kovalenko

So... this so-called "military expert" knows the hospital was targeted. That's some serious insider expertise there.

32 posted on 07/08/2024 3:51:21 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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So who is the more pathetic liar - Biden or the Russians?


34 posted on 07/08/2024 3:56:33 PM PDT by Apparatchik (Русские свиньи, идите домой!)
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Typical Russian propaganda.


37 posted on 07/08/2024 4:08:25 PM PDT by Brilliant
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I can tell you the precise moment when the world comes to an end: the moment a Russian is caught telling the truth.


39 posted on 07/08/2024 4:16:29 PM PDT by Bookshelf
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Sure looks the same as the missile from today.


46 posted on 07/08/2024 4:37:48 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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This is Hamas' level propaganda.

And, can the Ukrainians be anymore hypocritical after their attack on those at a beach in Crimea, one that was nowhere near a military target? Or have 10 years of targeting civilians in Donetsk?

63 posted on 07/08/2024 5:47:19 PM PDT by Kazan
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These threads are like roll call of the foreign agent Putin infiltrators here.


70 posted on 07/08/2024 6:31:57 PM PDT by ifinnegan (MDemocrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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Those missiles Russia fired destroy everything up tob3 stories underground.

I doubt that this limited damage is due to one of their missiles. Look at the other buildings hit today and they are totally gutted. That hospital was not heavily damaged. This was an incepter.


101 posted on 07/08/2024 9:07:18 PM PDT by Jumper
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