Posted on 06/26/2024 11:03:45 AM PDT by libh8er
Following speculation that former President Donald Trump might select Republican Vivek Ramaswamy as his vice presidential candidate, Ramaswamy’s chances have significantly increased on prediction platforms like Polymarket. Over the last three days, his odds have jumped by 1,100%.
Ramaswamy Gains Momentum in VP Stakes on Prediction Markets
On Tuesday, the internet buzzed with ongoing speculation that Republican presidential hopeful Donald Trump would name Vivek Ramaswamy as his running mate. One piece of the rumor mill claims that Trump announced his VP choice would be present at the upcoming debate against the current U.S. President Joe Biden. Furthermore, after Ramaswamy withdrew from the presidential contest, Trump praised him as a “smart guy.”
Trump further suggested his future involvement in the administration by stating:
He’s gonna be with us in some form.
Three days prior, Bitcoin.com News highlighted the prediction market odds for Trump’s potential vice presidential candidates. At that time, the decentralized prediction market Polymarket indicated that Ramaswamy had a mere 1% chance. Now, his odds on Polymarket have climbed to 12%, just trailing an unidentified male and J.D. Vance (R-OH). Ramaswamy now surpasses several contenders who were ahead of him three days earlier.
The Polymarket wager is now valued at more than $49 million at press time. Additionally, a rise in Ramaswamy’s rising odds is also quite noticeable on predictit.org, where his chances escalated from 2% on June 21 to the present 20%. North Dakota’s 33rd Governor, Doug Burgum, remains the frontrunner on predictit.org, while Vance’s odds have significantly declined in the past three days. On the predictit.org market, Ramaswamy now leads, with Vance holding a 15% chance.
As the buzz around Ramaswamy’s potential vice-presidential nomination continues to stir, the prediction markets are reflecting a dynamic shift. His surging odds not only underscore a growing consensus about interest in him but also hint at a strategic reshuffling within the Republican ranks. This move could significantly influence the upcoming debates and the broader electoral strategy against incumbent President Joe Biden.
I’ve thought about fwiw. Vivek is too young. Carson is the best choice.
Ted Cruz said so. He was born in Canada to a Cuban father and American mother. Cruz said that even though he was born in Canada his mother's American citizenship made him natural born and eligible to run.
Imagine... we could have had an FDR/Churchill ticket during WWII!!!
-PJ
Right. That’s why I noted the real issue is birthright citizenship which is what currently qualifies them.
If you are born within the jurisdiction of the US, you are a natural born citizen.
This misstates the law. One must be "born within the United States and subject to its jurisdiction." It is possible to be born within the jurisdiction and outside the United States. Jurisdiction alone does not confer citizenship.
https://fam.state.gov/FAM/08FAM/08FAM030110.html
8 FAM 301.10-2(A) Definition of Born Outside the United States(CT:CITZ-37; 06-08-2020)
a. INA 101(a)(38) provides that the term "United States" means the continental United States, Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, Guam, the U.S. Virgin Islands, and the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands.
b. Because American Samoa and Swains Island are not included in the definition of the United States, children born in American Samoa and Swains Island cannot acquire U.S. citizenship under the CCA. Such children are non-citizen U.S. nationals who may travel to the United States without the need for a visa or LPR status; thus they are not "admitted" to the United States for purposes of the CCA (see 8 FAM 301.10-2(H)).
INA is the Immigration and Naturalization Act. FAM is the Foreign Affairs Manual of the U.S. State Department. The CCA is the Child Citizenship Act. LPR is Lawful Permanent Resident.
The children of military members automatically obtaining citizenship at birth is fairly new, resulting from a change to the statute law in 2020. The controlling law for children born abroad would be whatever federal law was in effect at their time of birth.
Vivek Ramaswamy was born in the United States and subject to its jurisdiction, so he is a natural born citizen.
That's the point... to eliminate the possibility of interference due to birth situations by limiting choices to the one group of people with no birth issues at all.
-PJ
(Let’s put aside the arguments over the constitution and the interpretations of the constitution and the interpretations of the interpretations….
when I say Americans I mean Americans as most other true Americans see them. Born American in America to American parents)
And Vivek wasn’t born to American parents.
Read the First Supreme Court Justice John Jay’s letter to George Washington when he was framing the presidential qualification clause in the Constitution.
From John Jay
New York 25 July 1787
Dear Sir
I was this morning honored with your Excellency’s Favor of the 22d Inst: & immediately delivered the Letter it enclosed to Commodore Jones, who being detained by Business, did not go in the french Packet, which sailed Yesterday.
Permit me to hint, whether it would not be wise & seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government, and to declare expressly that the Command in chief of the american army shall not be given to, nor devolved on, any but a natural born Citizen.
Mrs Jay is obliged by your attention, and assures You of her perfect Esteem & Regard—with similar Sentiments the most cordial and sincere I remain Dear Sir Your faithful Friend & Servt
why? what is their problem with him? Just curious.
(If you are born within the jurisdiction of the US, you are a natural born citizen)
Birthright citizen….natural born citizen…..naturalized citizen, all distinct.
In history this was much clearer, it wasn’t until it started getting picked apart by the courts that it became muddled.
The Constitution only limits the Presidency and Congress to American citizens, but not the Supreme Court, Cabinet and lesser offices.
-PJ
(Vivek Ramaswamy was born in the United States and subject to its jurisdiction, so he is a natural born citizen.)
He’s not a natural born Citizen. He’s a statutory citizen via the 14th Amendment. If you have to have a statute to make you a citizen, that’s not being natural born. It’s you type people who don’t want to adhere to the farmers original intent. You’re trying to conflate Citizen with a natural born Citizen. They are not the same.
eye roll. it’s okay to have a different view on religion in the USA.
But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
(Losing voters because he’s Hindu is just crazy)
I like Vivek, I do not want him for VP.
That would not change my vote for Trump……
I’m not sure anything could change my vote except for the devils doing the counting.
I read "We the People" to be the citizens of the United States (both natural and naturalized) and "our posterity" to be the citizen children ("posterity") of their citizen parents ("our").
But that's just me...
-PJ
(Carson is the best choice)
No he’s not. The founders would have never wanted his type to be considered a president or VP. We need to get back to tradition. They wanted a person of White European heritage born of two White citizen parents to ensure sole allegiance to thr United States
Sanders spiked even harder.
She is now the second betting choice behind Burgum.
She would be an exceptional choice.
-PJ
MMM
No need to convince me, I’m on your side with this. Did I express myself poorly or did you speed read ?
(I read “We the People” to be the citizens of the United States (both natural and naturalized) and “our posterity” to be the citizen children (”posterity”) of their citizen parents (”our”).
But that’s just me...)
And when they meant Citizens, they meant White Citizens, the only type people they wanted as Citizens of the newly formed United States. Here’s the proof, the first legislation by the first Congress:
Naturalization Act of 1790 (1 Stat. 103, enacted March 26, 1790) is a law of the United States Congress that set the first uniform rules for the granting of United States citizenship by naturalization. The law limits naturalization to “free White person(s) ... of good character”, thus excludes Native Americans, indentured servants, enslaved people, free Africans, Pacific Islanders, and Asians.
he’s too old. and a boring speaker. No thanks.
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