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'Normal and natural': Scientists admit the animal kingdom is a lot gayer than they thought
Upworthy ^ | 6/22/2024 | Tod Perry

Posted on 06/24/2024 2:26:31 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat

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To: Recovering_Democrat

Two questions for any study, before you can determine if it is accurate or not?

1. Is it Peer Reviewed? Has somebody, not affiliated withe original study gone over it with a fine tooth comb?

2. Is it reproducible? Can somebody else, gather data and show the same results?

Without passing those tests, it is wortheless.


61 posted on 06/24/2024 6:31:02 AM PDT by GreenLanternCorps (Hi! I'm the Dread Pirate Roberts! (TM) Ask about franchise opportunities in your area.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Note that in the animal kingdom homosexual behavior seems to be mostly male. Few lesbian fruit flies or bonobos. For the most part the homosexual behavior displayed in animals is sexual opportunism not exclusive preference or creatures of the same sex.


62 posted on 06/24/2024 7:00:42 AM PDT by Captain Compassion (I'm just sayin')
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To: Captain Compassion

These “scientists” are so driven to prove that their own personal flaws are “normal”. Dearest “scientists”...Face it! You are abnormal freakos! Nothing in you weak, misinterpreted “studies” will change that reality. Do society a favor...fade into obscurity.


63 posted on 06/24/2024 7:05:43 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp??)
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To: Captain Compassion

These “scientists” are so driven to prove that their own personal flaws are “normal”. Dearest “scientists”...Face it! You are abnormal freakos! Nothing in you weak, misinterpreted “studies” will change that reality. Do society a favor...fade into obscurity.


64 posted on 06/24/2024 7:05:48 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp??)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

The author has confused the word “normal” with the word “aberrant”.


65 posted on 06/24/2024 7:06:21 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

I’ve never understood this angle. They’re comparing people to animals. Really? Didn’t they think this through at all?


66 posted on 06/24/2024 7:18:10 AM PDT by al_c (Democrats: Party over Common Sense)
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To: neverevergiveup

::I don’t see squirrels out on weekends killing each other.

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Perhaps they are smart enough to do it while you are not looking.


67 posted on 06/24/2024 7:30:11 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

When it occurs, it occurs for two specific reasons, as an act of domination, or during a period of sexual immaturity. It occurs in domestic animals raised in a same-sex environment.


68 posted on 06/24/2024 7:53:03 AM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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To: Recovering_Democrat

The bonobo chimps are a special case that shows that in female-dominated primate species, rampant sex is used to garner favors such as food, protection, or shelter.


69 posted on 06/24/2024 7:56:20 AM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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To: Recovering_Democrat

This is a terrible article. It is not in the least scientific, and the conclusion is not supported by everything that was said before it. Pure propaganda.


70 posted on 06/24/2024 8:50:17 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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To: Candor7

There are many animal behaviors that cannot be justified in human behavior.

Murder, slavery, conquest war, rape, infanticide, cannibalism, mind control, dispossession, parasitism, theft, robbery, kidnapping. All natural survival behaviors.

To call something natural has less moral weight than these researchers think, but natural law proponents had best limit philosophizing to human kind.


71 posted on 06/24/2024 9:27:33 AM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: rlmorel

That’s one possible interpretation.

It is unprovable given the current scientific limitations to determine intent of action for birds.

So researchers take the available data and hypothesize.


72 posted on 06/24/2024 9:27:43 AM PDT by Fury (I )
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To: fwdude

There is a pair-bonded set of male penguins, and male dolphins engage in mutual frontage.

I don’t think it’s always a dominance issue.

It still has little to say to human morality either way


73 posted on 06/24/2024 9:30:55 AM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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To: rarestia
Two homosexuals fisting each other has absolutely nothing in common with fruit flies. Animals do things for survival. Homosexual behavior isn't compatible with survival.
74 posted on 06/24/2024 9:31:27 AM PDT by Rdct29 (The Democrats Are The New Nazi Party )
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To: Fury

Of course...I am absolutely guilty of anthropomorphizing the behavior of the bird in that case. But I have spent many hours as a birder observing their behavior (especially Blue Jays and Crows, both of which are members of the Corvid family and are provably the most intelligent of the species) and have noticed VERY human-like behavior in both...most humorously...greed.

But yes, I concede the point. Some people would never agree to accept that interpretation.


75 posted on 06/24/2024 9:37:42 AM PDT by rlmorel (In Today's Democrat America, The $5 Dollar Bill is the New $1 Dollar Bill.)
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To: rlmorel

I do it myself. I’ve caught hell for referring to a bird as “handsome” or “pretty”. Of course, these same people raise money calling bird “pretty”. Hypocrites.


76 posted on 06/24/2024 10:23:28 AM PDT by Fury (I )
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To: Albion Wilde

Exactly...and it was even more crazy that local media is outlets are picking this crap up and distributing it over the information marketplace.

Garbage news.


77 posted on 06/24/2024 1:13:29 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: rdcbn1

I work with plenty of homosexual people. One or two have even been fiscal conservatives. Their lifestyle isn’t healthy or appropriate but yeah I have gotten along quite famously with them—they didn’t flaunt their choices and I kept my heterosexual adventures to myself. We do our jobs and things are fine.

Like you say, it is the mob mentality that hurts society.


78 posted on 06/24/2024 1:17:16 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: heartwood

Murder, slavery, conquest war, rape, infanticide, cannibalism, mind control, dispossession, parasitism, theft, robbery, kidnapping.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

THis is not animal behavior. It is human behaviour,


79 posted on 06/24/2024 7:37:07 PM PDT by Candor7 (Ask not for whom the Trump Trolls,He trolls for thee!),<img src="" width=500</img><a href="">tag</a>)
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To: Candor7

THis is not animal behavior. It is human behaviour


All of those occur in the natural world.

Orangutangs and ducks force unwilling females, chimps wipe out neighboring bands, the new male in the territory kills the infants of the previous male, cowbirds lay an egg in a host bird’s nest and destroy her eggs if she doesn’t raise the cowbird chick (slavery), slave-making ants go on raids to take the pupae of other species, a fungus makes zombies of ants, toxoplasmosis alters the behavior of infected mouse and human alike


80 posted on 06/24/2024 8:43:25 PM PDT by heartwood (Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
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