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Musk: AI Will Bring Universal Income for All
Newsmax ^ | June 23, 2024 | Charlie McCarthy

Posted on 06/23/2024 4:38:16 PM PDT by Navy Patriot

Artificial intelligence will result in adults earning a basic income, billionaire Elon Musk said.

AI could lead to a world of self-driving vehicles and other computers and machines that replace humans in work settings and perform virtually all physical and mental labor, Business Insider reported.

When that happens, Musk said adults, regardless of their wealth or employment status, will receive a universal basic income.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsmax.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ai; baloney; chat; elonmusk; musk; socialism; ubi
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To: Navy Patriot

21 posted on 06/23/2024 4:57:01 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Whenever anyone talks about Universal Income it usually turns out to be like $1000 a month.

Hey, offer me $1000 a month and I won’t turn it down. But that amount won’t pay my mortgage. I can’t survive on $12,000 a year. So, a job is a necessity. If AI takes away a very large number of jobs (I think it will) then that’s a problem. And if “Universal Income” is a fix, then people need to start talking about much larger amounts.

And they aren’t.


22 posted on 06/23/2024 4:57:52 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (It's not "Quiet Quitting" -- it's "Going Galt".)
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To: Theoria
before that, this. and not long before, imho.


23 posted on 06/23/2024 4:57:55 PM PDT by xoxox
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To: ClearCase_guy

if it does, it’s only because a large number of people are dependent on a very mechanized and mechanizable economy; such an end was baked in from the beginning.

Sad. Monasteries and agrarians will be OK, at least until they blot out the sun and the water turns to blood.


24 posted on 06/23/2024 5:00:01 PM PDT by xoxox
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To: Fai Mao

I read a SF story long ago describing a future world where everyone gets paid a “Basic Citizen’s Stipend,” or “BCS”.

People refer to those letters as standing for “Born, Collect, Stagnate.”

I wish I could remember the title of that story. Googling those words finds nothing.


25 posted on 06/23/2024 5:00:05 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: Navy Patriot

Sounds like early retirement !


26 posted on 06/23/2024 5:01:06 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Chode

Best point of the thread, Chode, Thanks!


27 posted on 06/23/2024 5:04:33 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Navy Patriot

Ever notice how AI is never talked about being implemented in Sub-Saharan Africa and other 3rd-world crapholes? Why don’t these tech giants use AI to teach Africans skills so they don’t have to come to Western nations all the time?


28 posted on 06/23/2024 5:05:02 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Navy Patriot

They said the same exact things at the outset of the computer chip pro0liferating the globe.

It’s decades later now-

have computers created or destroyed more jobs?


29 posted on 06/23/2024 5:05:27 PM PDT by Freest Republican (There is no tyranny that cannot be justified by imbeciles)
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To: Steely Tom

I should say I think there will be market, possibly a large e one, for human made goods. My corollary is the guys who still build handmade bicycles and shoes. The machine made versions may actually be better but people like the hand made stuff.


30 posted on 06/23/2024 5:08:28 PM PDT by Fai Mao (. The US government is run by pedophiles and Perverts )
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To: Navy Patriot

“I like Musk, however I think he’s wrong on this.”

Who cares if he’s right or wrong, he just needs to SHUT UP on this issue.


31 posted on 06/23/2024 5:09:11 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Navy Patriot

People are going to require a strong, long term sense of purpose, once the AI Steamroller pushes them off the road of steady employment. To repeat, this will be required, not just desired. Our semi puritan culture will demand it.
Especially for the menfolk.


32 posted on 06/23/2024 5:09:38 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: bigbob

Sounds like early retirement !
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Sounds like a meaningless existence!


33 posted on 06/23/2024 5:12:08 PM PDT by chickenlips (Neuter your politicians)
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To: MinorityRepublican

UBI is fine as Milton told us as long as that is all.

Ironically, McD’s dropped IBM’s AI this week after it kept screwing up orders in their drive thrus. It was messing up 1 in 5 orders but IMO the mishaps going viral was the downfall.


34 posted on 06/23/2024 5:12:55 PM PDT by Freest Republican (There is no tyranny that cannot be justified by imbeciles)
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To: Navy Patriot; All
This cannot work unless population increase is limited - perhaps to those willing to go off world?

Otherwise, the world is filled to the brim with people, very fast.

35 posted on 06/23/2024 5:15:12 PM PDT by marktwain (The Republic is at risk. Resistance to the Democratic Party is Resistance to Tyranny. )
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To: MinorityRepublican
Everyone should receive UBI.

That's certainly a Far Left, Dictatorial, Prog Socialist thing to say.

36 posted on 06/23/2024 5:16:06 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Navy Patriot

I agree.


37 posted on 06/23/2024 5:17:53 PM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: Navy Patriot

Let’s assume he’s correct. I call it the “Star Trek Economy*”.
Given what we’ve seen on Indian reservation, urban inner cities and now fly-over country about the effects of loss of jobs but supposedly solved by free money.

Our current social problems will pale into insignificance. It sounds trite and old fashioned but there’s something psychologically settling in the self-discipline of going to work. The leftists all think that freed from the “drudgery” of work we’ll all be artists - painters, poets, novelists. How’s that urban center Rap artistic thing working out?

* Why “Star Trek Economy”?
Did you ever see anyone in the Star Trek shows actually have a non-government job or any job?


38 posted on 06/23/2024 5:18:21 PM PDT by Reily
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To: xoxox

That’s assuming they don’t enslave us in pods and place our minds in a fake reality like in “The Matrix” series.


39 posted on 06/23/2024 5:19:13 PM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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To: Navy Patriot

Six says hi..


40 posted on 06/23/2024 5:20:09 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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