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Removal of gray wolves from US West wreaked havoc on ecosystem: Study
The Hill ^ | 06/19/2024 | SHARON UDASIN

Posted on 06/19/2024 1:19:47 PM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

The historic removal of gray wolves from the U.S. West facilitated the rise of mid-ranking predators across the region, wreaking havoc on historical ecosystem dynamics, a new study has found.

Yet just how much havoc — both to their immediate prey and much farther down the line — remains unclear due to a dearth of data, according to the study, published Wednesday in BioScience.

The disappearance of wolves particularly led to a spike in elk populations, which then damaged plant communities through overgrazing, per the study. Also of note was an upswing in medium-sized carnivores like coyotes that threaten smaller animals.

“Various national parks in the western United States, which are considered the crown jewels of American wilderness, lack their apex predators, resulting in them being shadows of their supposed ecological integrity,” the authors stated.

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I wonder what idiot removed them in the first place
1 posted on 06/19/2024 1:19:47 PM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: ChicagoConservative27

“I wonder what idiot removed them in the first place”

Since the article conveniently fails to mention it I have good idea who it was


2 posted on 06/19/2024 1:23:46 PM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

A nameless faceless non-elected bureaucrat who can’t be fired.


3 posted on 06/19/2024 1:24:10 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I was drowning in self pity until I bathed in the refreshing Lake of Respect.)
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To: V_TWIN

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4 posted on 06/19/2024 1:24:36 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s² )
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Yet just how much havoc — both to their immediate prey and much farther down the line — remains unclear due to a dearth of data, according to the study, published Wednesday in BioScience.

Conclusions in the absence of data aren't science.

5 posted on 06/19/2024 1:25:36 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: ChicagoConservative27

They’re just like Fluffy and Rascal(🐩🐕). Playful little pups. 🤔


6 posted on 06/19/2024 1:26:57 PM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Ordinarily I’d read an article with a title like that. But since it’s The Hill and likely to be wrong....


7 posted on 06/19/2024 1:26:58 PM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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Yet just how much havoc — both to their immediate prey and much farther down the line — remains unclear due to a dearth of data, according to the study

So, their whole "study" is nothing more than a data-less pile of liberal fantasies.

8 posted on 06/19/2024 1:28:07 PM PDT by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Can’t we just expand Elk Season?


9 posted on 06/19/2024 1:28:56 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (Stormy Daniels is a McGuffin)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Utterly retarded. An explosion of elk has overgrazed the west? Bullcrap. There were 60 million buffalo out there.
Kinda nice to be able to go into large parts of the west and not need to worry about a wolfpack at night or grizzly bear attacks.

But some university chick will be along to tell us how we can reverently worship the deadly animals. This is right up there with morons not killing rattlers.


10 posted on 06/19/2024 1:31:13 PM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The “idiot” who removed them were the settlers that wanted to live in the west. It’s kind of hard to raise the livestock needed to live on farmsteads with wolves running all over the place. This article is from The Hill which is of course going to take the greenie perspective. If you wanted to settle the west then wolves had to be removed, they’re incompatible with higher density human habitation. The fact that it would change the predator/prey relationship was a given. How many bison do you see today in downtown L.A. or Denver? Same thing, if you want people to live there then some animals have to be removed.


11 posted on 06/19/2024 1:31:19 PM PDT by GaryCrow
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We should test the hypothesis by releasing a few dozen packs of gray wolves in DC. Once we’ve amassed some data, we can figure out what to do next.


12 posted on 06/19/2024 1:31:42 PM PDT by Flag_This (They're lying.)
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I wonder what idiot removed them in the first place


Farmers and ranchers who were tired of their flocks/herds being prey to wolves.

It’s fascinating to me that people wanting to see dangerous predators reintroduced into the wild rarely want to see them brought to their neighborhoods.

I’m sure that back in the day rattlesnakes lived on Manhattan Island and played a large role in the local ecosystem. They should be brought back.


13 posted on 06/19/2024 1:32:28 PM PDT by hanamizu ( )
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“ I wonder what idiot removed them in the first place”

Hmm , settler’s and ranchers in the 1800’s.
For good reason


14 posted on 06/19/2024 1:34:03 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Have you seen Joe Biden's picture on a milk carton?)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Anyone know just what a plant community is??


15 posted on 06/19/2024 1:35:53 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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They put the wolvesON the protected list,and re established them to their former range,to the shagrinof live stock owners.


16 posted on 06/19/2024 1:37:03 PM PDT by skinny old man (Still lurking and posting after all these years(27 yrs ?)(more ?)(seems like more...))
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"...they’re incompatible with higher density human habitation."

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Well, for leftists, there in lies the problem.
17 posted on 06/19/2024 1:38:44 PM PDT by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: markman46

Does anyone know what reading is?

Looking at the ‘study’ mentioned in this Hill article makes it appear to be a ‘duh’ notion, basically setting up a “need” for more research funding.

The unmentioned issue with ‘elk overpopulation’ has less to do with lack of wolves than state wildlife agencies viewing them as their own personal cash-crop, demanding extortionary fees for out-of-state hunters. They’d rather cull than reduce the income stream.


18 posted on 06/19/2024 1:44:25 PM PDT by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
With reintroduction of wolves to areas where they were eradicated, we are seeing why our forefathers got rid of them to begin with.

Given the wolf populations in Canada and Alaska, wolves being rare in their previous ranges in the continental US does not threaten their existence.

19 posted on 06/19/2024 1:46:24 PM PDT by CommerceComet (Re-elect Donald Trump - AGAIN)
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To: larrytown

Agree

Next they will report the disappearance of rabbits too send more money.


20 posted on 06/19/2024 1:49:17 PM PDT by Vaduz
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