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Internal combustion engines are far from over: 'There was a bit of hype' around EVs, industry watchers say
ABC News | Disney ^ | June 9, 2024 | By Morgan Korn

Posted on 06/10/2024 6:13:47 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

... Forty-six percent of Americans say they are "not too likely or not at all likely to purchase" an EV, according to a recent poll by The Associated Press -NORC Center for Public Affairs Research and the Energy Policy Institute at the University of Chicago.

Earlier this year, luxury German automaker Mercedes delayed its electrification plans by five years, with CEO Ola Kaellenius telling investors the company was still committed to producing combustion engine cars. Last month, Toyota executives announced its engineers were developing smaller, next-gen engines that can run on alternative fuels like liquid hydrogen.

Industry insiders are calling the trend "return to ICE," or internal combustion engines.

"Maybe there was a little bit of a hype [around EVs]. There are challenges with an all EV world," McKeel Hagerty, CEO of Hagerty, an automotive enthusiast brand, told ABC News. "There's a place for EVs for people who really want them, especially the high-performance ones, but they don't seem to be selling and I think that tells us something."

Tony Quiroga, editor-in-chief of Car and Driver and co-host of the magazine's new "Into Cars" podcast, noted that EVs can work for some Americans though the inconvenience of charging can outweigh the pros.

"Everyone who wanted an EV has one now," he told ABC News.

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: automotive; cars; electric; evs; fascism; icevehicles
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1 posted on 06/10/2024 6:13:47 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Plus a bit of the taxpayer’s money. A good bit.


2 posted on 06/10/2024 6:18:19 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“...a bit of hype...”

Yeah, it seems like there has been some.


3 posted on 06/10/2024 6:18:44 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Pointing out hypocrisy is meaningless to the Left; they don't have principles, they have goals. )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Unexpected.

I respectfully disagree. The left, including ABC, often tones down their rhetoric during election years.

4 posted on 06/10/2024 6:19:13 AM PDT by Tell It Right (Galatians 6:14 -- May I never boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
You know what else is far from over?

You guessed it ...

Frank Stallone

5 posted on 06/10/2024 6:19:21 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (It's not "Quiet Quitting" -- it's "Going Galt".)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Hybrids can make sense to the folks that lease new vehicles every few years. For buy-and-hold folks, they’ll never make sense. And the used car market won’t be there for cars 8 or so years old or older.

Plug in electrics will never be more than a niche item.


6 posted on 06/10/2024 6:21:01 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
I bet it's a lot higher than that....more like 85%-90%. Our pocketbook won't support it...and we're lacking the bazillion stations we were promised.

And those stations generally use fossil fuels to provide the electricity.

7 posted on 06/10/2024 6:21:01 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; ...

Quibble — it’s not unexpected, it’s exactly the same course of action that has resulted in ICE-makers’ current predicament.

This breather is precisely the time they need to redouble, but they don’t have the money coming in to do it because ICE vehicles’ sales are getting hammered.

The smart ones will be building ICE vehicles which get better fuel economy, but they don’t make as much money on a sale of one of those compared with a fuel-guzzling SUV, crossover, or truck.

The definition of insanity...


8 posted on 06/10/2024 6:22:26 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

There’s a whole lot of problems and impracticality that comes along with EVs.

From charging time to insane cost of a new battery that WILL have to be replaced one day to every now and then they catch fire for no apparent reason.....not to mention of the battery experiences salt water intrusion it’s pretty much a good bet that it WILL ignite.


9 posted on 06/10/2024 6:22:47 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: cdcdawg

It’s been said 100,000 times but bears repeating: what if we had a real media that had taken a good hard look at thie EV fad at the outset? Perhaps predicted what the result of the latest leftist push to violate the laws of the market and to try to impose economic change?


10 posted on 06/10/2024 6:24:09 AM PDT by j.havenfarm (23 years on Free Republic, 12/10/23! More than 8,000 replies and still not shutting up!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

EVs = idiot dupes voting for democrats

I know this artist who is ill and facing her own mortality.

All her work is dedicated to the sun burning up the earth.

She’s taken up the cause and is literally wasting her remaining days as miracle of the universe fretting over climate change, a nonexistant made up political con.

What does that tell you?


11 posted on 06/10/2024 6:24:09 AM PDT by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Was “There are two chances and Slim just left.” an option?


12 posted on 06/10/2024 6:25:27 AM PDT by cyclotic (Don’t be part of the problem. Be the entire problem)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

EVs will replace ICEs..
Right after wine coolers replace Beer.


13 posted on 06/10/2024 6:26:41 AM PDT by MattMusson (Sometimes the wind bweek.lows too much)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"but they don't seem to be selling and I think that tells us something."

You think? Statist government controlled auto corporations thought that the government could force everyone to buy this useless crap. I hope they all suffer as we keep driving older, better and less expensive cars that do not spy on us.

14 posted on 06/10/2024 6:38:15 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Right now, the fortunes of Elon Musk’s Tesla automobile enterprise are flagging. A good move would to convert all future Teslas into hybrid vehicles, with or without the plug-in option.

A small internal-combustion engine to generate power to directly feed to the traction motors, rather than a combined electro-mechanical drive train, with the battery array as back-up and for supplemental power boost as needed, is a far more elegant solution than relying on battery power alone. The battery array is continuously charged to full capacity most of the time, without relying on slow and cumbersome recharge stations, which may or may not be conveniently located. And the battery array may be relatively much smaller, reducing the dependence on imported battery components, or even making way for much more revolutionary battery designs.

The ICE power plant can be engineered for most efficient and economical operation, it could even be of diesel design, if properly set up. This would be the source of heat in cold climates, rather than resistance heating, which tends to sap batteries quickly.


15 posted on 06/10/2024 6:40:09 AM PDT by alloysteel (Most people slog through life without ever knowing the wonders of true insanity.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
From the article: "Everyone who wanted an EV has one now"

Couple that with the damning reports EV ownership is so bad that 50% of EV owners switch back to an ICE vehicle.

https://www.repairerdrivennews.com/2023/10/19/nearly-half-of-ev-households-reverted-to-ice-vehicle-for-next-purchase-study-shows/

16 posted on 06/10/2024 6:43:37 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: Sacajaweau

Charging stations should be required to run on windmills and solar panels.


17 posted on 06/10/2024 6:54:45 AM PDT by ActresponsiblyinVA
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Gee, ya don’t say.


18 posted on 06/10/2024 6:55:57 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
It'll be a cold day in hell before I buy an EV. My amazing diesel sedan is getting expensive to maintain so I might get rid of it down the road.If I do i might buy a Toyota/Honda hybrid.IIRC there are one or two that something like 40mpg (highway) which is about what my diesel gets.
19 posted on 06/10/2024 7:09:25 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Never Trust A Man Whose Uncle Was Eaten By Cannibals)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

We had worries about buying new autos back in the late 1970s as gas was being phased out and the government wanted us in electric “Citicars”. I saw plenty of them on car lots but never on the street. Then Reagan was in and everything changed for the better.
Remember these monstrosities?
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/the-american-built-citicar-was-an-ev-that-sold-by-the-thousands-in-the-1970s-169045.html


20 posted on 06/10/2024 7:13:32 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is force!--G. Washington)
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