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Live thread [05/28/2024]: Trump show trial in New York, brought to you by Obama-Biden operative Matt Colangelo; post comments here
Andrew Giuliani ^ | Sidebar Mod

Posted on 05/28/2024 6:20:40 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator

Closing arguments. Your thoughts?


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To: Sidebar Moderator

I’m gonna laugh my arse off when the “hand-picked” jury finds Trump NOT GUILTY.


41 posted on 05/28/2024 7:04:39 AM PDT by LastDayz (A blunt and brazen Texan. I will not be assimilated.)
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... He confessed to grand larceny AGAINST the defendant from the witness stand! ...

SOL is out on that.

Sometimes that matters ...

42 posted on 05/28/2024 7:06:24 AM PDT by gloryblaze
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I saw this reply, in Andrew’s feed ... no idea if true, but, wouldn’t surprise me, if so ...

Savannah
@BasedSavannah

NY has an unusual order for closing. The defense provides their summation first, then the prosecution makes their closing statement. In most states, the prosecution goes 1st, then the defense; after that prosecution has a chance for a closing rebuttal. Of course NY is different.


43 posted on 05/28/2024 7:07:25 AM PDT by Jane Long (The role of the GOP: to write sharply-worded letters as America becomes a communist hell-hole.)
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To: Jane Long

Yep erycase of Perry Mason I ever watched the defense goes last.


44 posted on 05/28/2024 7:09:42 AM PDT by mware
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Thanks all for thoughtful replies to my lay person questions.
I’m not sure either what is going to happen here now.


45 posted on 05/28/2024 7:09:53 AM PDT by desertsolitaire (Perhaps the Great Ape Lawgiver in the series Planet of the Apes was correct in his view of humans?)
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To: desertsolitaire

Has the judged ruled on direct verdict?


46 posted on 05/28/2024 7:11:13 AM PDT by mware
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To: Jane Long

Excellent! 👏👏😂👏👏


47 posted on 05/28/2024 7:11:43 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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So far, nothing on the lawfare front has worked well for the democrats. Everything has backfired. So the odds don’t look favorable for them here either.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

I agree with your approach. The question is how far do they want to push their fascism, its already out of the closet.

Judge Juan must have consulted Kafka’s “Der Process (The Trial)”

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The Trial (German: Der Process)[A] is a novel written by Franz Kafka in 1914 and 1915 and published posthumously on 26 April 1925. One of his best-known works, it tells the story of Josef K., a man arrested and prosecuted by a remote, inaccessible authority, with the nature of his crime revealed neither to him nor to the reader. Heavily influenced by Dostoevsky’s Crime and Punishment and The Brothers Karamazov, Kafka even went so far as to call Dostoevsky a blood relative.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Trial#English_translations


48 posted on 05/28/2024 7:13:35 AM PDT by Candor7 (Ask not for whom the Trump Trolls,He trolls for thee!),<img src="" width=500</img><a href="">tag</a>)
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I wonder how the jurors will respond to the last eight days of being harangued by family and friends, comments and analysis from their favorite “news” outlets, and outright threats of doxxing and public shame should they dare to vote not guilty…


49 posted on 05/28/2024 7:14:24 AM PDT by daler
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To: Jane Long

Yeah, saw that. What a joke.


50 posted on 05/28/2024 7:15:01 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Candor7

BTTT!


51 posted on 05/28/2024 7:15:54 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Jane Long

BTTT!


52 posted on 05/28/2024 7:16:12 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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The summation should be as simple as possible but leave no essential fact unstated.


53 posted on 05/28/2024 7:16:30 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
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There is the fiction of the law and the reality of what really happens. If anyone thinks many on this non sequestered jury has not been reading about this case in their off time, I have a bridge to sell you. The other cardinal principles of courtroom fact over fiction is prospective jurors do indeed lie a lot during voir dire, no one has an agenda, judges rarely exercise their bias and interested witness telling the whole truth is something that happens in movies not in courtrooms. Sometimes the law works and sometimes it doesn’t, but it seems to serve its intended purpose of keeping people from killing each other over a legal dispute as a go to to settle them.


54 posted on 05/28/2024 7:18:17 AM PDT by chuckee
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Thanks! I thought something was odd there. I thought “the final word” was sacrosanct in the proceedings.


55 posted on 05/28/2024 7:20:13 AM PDT by gloryblaze
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Given how the prosecution and judge has run this case with unusual rules and procedures along with highly respected legal experts weighing in on the case with basically WTF (my term), how can anyone not question any guilty ruling? Better the judge stop now and take the damages done to Trump instead of exposing the case was a complete scam.

Better to stop now and let some people wonder about the scam instead of going forth to the guilty forced ruling and remove all doubt for every American.

56 posted on 05/28/2024 7:21:46 AM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting…)
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To: chuckee

Agreed. On the bright side, even most of the news coverage has been pretty negative towards the prosecution, many admitting it’s an extremely weak case.


57 posted on 05/28/2024 7:23:00 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Lockbox

Wholeheartedly agree.


58 posted on 05/28/2024 7:23:54 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: mware

Not sure. He may have.


59 posted on 05/28/2024 7:25:01 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Candor7

Der Process and this “trial” remind me unhappily, of Malamud’s ‘The Fixer’ in its maddening exasperational tone.


60 posted on 05/28/2024 7:26:44 AM PDT by desertsolitaire (Perhaps the Great Ape Lawgiver in the series Planet of the Apes was correct in his view of humans?)
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