Posted on 05/26/2024 11:18:47 PM PDT by RandFan
At dawn on Friday 12 April, Israeli teenager Benjamin Achimeir walked out from his settler outpost in the occupied West Bank, with a flock of sheep, and disappeared.
Achimeir, 14, had been living and working on a tiny farm outpost near his family's settlement, Malachei HaShalom - one of nearly 150 Israeli settlements in the West Bank regarded as illegal under international law.
The young teenager was murdered that morning out on the pasture, according to Israeli police, but it would be 24 hours before his body was found
At 08:30 on Saturday, Elisha Yered, a former spokesman for MP Limor Son Har-Melech and extremist settler suspected in the murder, external of a Palestinian man last August, posted in a WhatsApp group for settlers.
"Shabbat Shalom, it's been nearly 24 hours of heavy suspicion that Benjamin was kidnapped from the pasture and still the obvious measures have not been taken," Yered wrote.
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What followed was a wave of shooting and arson attacks across 11 Palestinian villages in which a dozen homes and more than 100 cars were torched, thousands of animals were slaughtered, four people were shot dead and scores of others were seriously wounded. In the weeks since, five Israeli settlers have been arrested in connection with the reprisal violence, and one Palestinian is being held in connection with the murder of Benjamin Achimeir.
Achimeir's body was found very close to his outpost. But in their rampage the settlers would attack Palestinian villages up to 7km (4.3 miles) away.
(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...
I’m in Israel as you know on an airbase building boxes of food for combat troops in Gaza this week.
Many contentious things occur here that amount to local politics (or justice, in this case) that I trust Israel’s (ahem) “vibrant” democracy to figure out. Like this one.
Seems to me arabs murdered a jewish boy, and should be held to account. Jews may have murdered arabs, and may need to be held to account.
Best to get the police and courts involved, I think, and demonstrate the superior morality of Western Civilization.
Arab settler colonialist invaders should return to arabia, and leave Israel to its indigenous Jews!
Pity the poor harmless Moslems. If they live by the Koran they will join in in any violence when the imam says to. If they do not then they will be punished as apostates. It is not that the “radicals” among them are the only danger. Al are Moslems. All believe in the precepts of their holy book. All are taught in their schools those precepts and their modern day ramifications i.e. Convert, enslave, or kill infidels, especially Jews and then Christians. Those things are believed and taught in American Mosques and mosques everywhere.
are you trying to say that Israel is “occupying” land that isn’t theirs?
As for Palestine being unlawfully occupied, your attention is invited to the undeniable fact that it is Israel which is officially unlawfully occupying Palestinian territory. Retention after Israel's war of aggression in 1967 was unlawful and remains unlawful today.
https://news.un.org/en/tags/occupied-palestinian-territory
Israeli occupation of Palestinian territory illegal: UN rights commission20 October 2022
Human Rights
Israel’s occupation of Palestinian territory is unlawful under international law due to its permanence and the Israeli government’s de facto annexation policies, a UN-appointed Commission of Inquiry said in its first report, published on Thursday.
International law, as conveyed by the United Nations, is clear.
Here is the film “Nova”.
It is footage recorded by Hamas themselves, victims and first responders at the Nova festival on 7th October.
For all those who think the festival-goers were killed by IDF Apaches 🙄
Viewer discretion advised. pic.twitter.com/BBGdKLeqVN— Andrew Fox (@Mr_Andrew_Fox) May 25, 2024
That argument who was first is a fools errand
We don’t want to do that here too do we
Israel won it in war fair and square
They should try to keep it like anyone would
That’s generally how borders are settled
The rest is just political rhetoric or dispy logic
troll alert.
you’re on a conservative American website and then cite some imaginary thing called “international law” and post links and maps! yep! brainless jew-hating anti-semite alert!!!
whats next — are you going to say that the “United Nations” condemns Israel as your proof?
Surely you know that Israel kicked a lot of arab butt in 1967 and rightfully took over that land? right? you do know that?
have a good night you arab troll!
BTW, what is your OBSESSION with posting that map over and over and over again along with your copy/link/paste thesis on your version of history?
you should rename yourself from woodpusher to BSpusher!
“It’s not the content of this particular article that elicits observations that you are antisemitic. It’s your CHOICE of what to post that draws that conclusion.”
well said. It’s also how he and his ilk here on FR also intentionally ignore any article / comment / thought that casts Israel in a good light. He’s incapable of addressing it intelligently so he just ignores it. But hey you know — he’s a Rand Fan, you know a TRUE libertarian and of course America first and only!!
It’s like these people post with orgasmic glee all of the BBC/AP/Reuters caliber articles with their anti-Israel slant but then magically ignore the articles showing the barbarity of Hamas/Islamo-fascists (unless of course those Islamo-fascists are targeting countries other then Israel!)
We caught them, and we shot them, under RULE THREE OH THREE!!!
It is fun, though, to watch lefties dissolve into a stinking puddle of toxic goo, when they realize that the cause they have put their empty hearts and emptier minds into, is nothing but a lie.
Surely you know that Israel kicked a lot of arab butt in 1967 and rightfully took over that land? right? you do know that?
Surely you know that in 1967 Israel attacked without being attacked.
You do know that an aggressor cannot legally annex territory it occupies.
You do know that Israel has never claimed to have annexed the territory. You do know that, right? It is an occupied territory. It has been an occupied territory since 1967.
Knock the UN all you want. How did Israel get its share of the land? Lord Rothschild did a back door deal with Lord Balfou during WW1 when Britain was bankrupt. The League of Nations gave the land to Israel while assigning Britain as the administrator, called the Mandatory.
The League of Nations morphed into the United Nations. The United Nations declared the end of the Mandate. And Lo and Behold, there was an Israel, created by the League of Nations/United Nations. And the territory of Israel declared statehood, and eleven minutes later the United States recognized the state of Israel.
What did you think, a stork delivered it? Or do you believe in a mythical War for Independence? It was an Israeli territory under the Mandate for decades, then it was a free territory for perhaps a minute, then it was a declared nation state, and eleven minutes later it was a recognized nation state. Who owned it that Israel declared independence from?
"My" version of history is to link, cite, and quote the historical documents.
If you have a different version of documented history, write a rebuttal with "your" documents.
Israel won it in war fair and squareThey should try to keep it like anyone would
That’s generally how borders are settled
A major legal point that is missing is that Israel has never annexed the West Bank territory. Since 1967, it has been occupied territory, even by Israel's reckoning.
Absent annexation, it remains occupied Palestine, not a part of Israel.
Menachim Begin speech delivered on Aug. 8, 1982, before the Israeli National Defense College.
Begin’s Admission in 1982 That Israel Started Three of Its WarsWashington Report on Middle East Affairs, July/August 1994, Page 73
Middle East History: It Happened in August
By Donald Neff[excerpts]
At the time of Begin's speech, the Israeli siege of Muslim West Beirut was already five weeks old. Israeli U.S.-made aircraft were launching daily air strikes and hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians throughout the country were being killed, wounded, starved, terrorized and uprooted from their homes, most of them by munitions made in America. On July 29, the United Nations Security Council demanded that Israel lift its siege. Only the United States abstained in the 14-0 vote. When Israel refused, the council voted again on Aug. 4 to censure Israel with a vote of 14-0, with the U.S. again abstaining. On Aug. 6, the United States exercised its veto to block a council resolution condemning Israel's occupation practices, the sixth time in 1982 the Reagan administration had used the veto to shield Israel from international criticism.
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In November 1956 we had a choice. The reason for going to war then was the need to destroy the fedayeen, who did not represent a danger to the existence of the state. Thus we went off to the Sinai campaign. At that time we conquered most of the Sinai Peninsula and reached Sharm el Sheikh. Actually, we accepted and submitted to an American dictate, mainly regarding the Gaza Strip (which Ben-Gurion called 'the liberated portion of the homeland'). John Foster Dulles, the then-secretary of state, promised Ben-Gurion that an Egyptian army would not return to Gaza. The Egyptian army did enter Gaza .... After 1957, Israel had to wait 10 full years for its flag to fly again over that liberated portion of the homeland.
In June 1967, we again had a choice. The Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him. This was a war of self-defense in the noblest sense of the term. The Government of National Unity then established decided unanimously: we will take the initiative and attack the enemy, drive him back, and thus assure the security of Israel and the future of the nation.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-52756427
Explainer: Israel, annexation and the West Bank25 June 2020
BBCIsraeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says he is planning to effectively annex parts of the occupied West Bank in what would be a major - and highly controversial - act.
What is the West Bank?
It is a chunk of land located - as the name suggests - on the west bank of the River Jordan and bounded by Israel to the north, west and south. To its east lies Jordan.
The West Bank has been occupied by Israel since the 1967 Middle East war, but decades of difficult on-off talks between Israel and the Palestinians - both of whom assert rights there - have left its final status unresolved.
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ARGUMENTAn expert's point of view on a current event.
Israel Is Officially Annexing the West Bank
A quiet bureaucratic maneuver by Netanyahu’s government has begun transferring control over the occupied territory from military to civilian leadership—violating international law.
By Michael Sfard, an Israeli lawyer specializing in international human rights law and international humanitarian law.
JUNE 8, 2023, 9:55 AM
On Nov. 22, 1967, the United Nations Security Council debated a resolution that would become the international community’s most important directive about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict since the 1947 partition plan for Palestine. The discussion concerned the outcome of the 1967 war, during which Israel had triumphed over its Arab neighbors to capture the West Bank and East Jerusalem from Jordan, Gaza Strip and Sinai Peninsula from Egypt, and Golan Heights from Syria.
At the Security Council, Israel’s then-Foreign Minister Abba Eban said, “We shall respect and fully maintain the situation embodied in the cease-fire agreements until it is succeeded by peace treaties between Israel and the Arab States ending the state of war.” Eban wasn’t being entirely accurate: When he made his statement, Israel had already unilaterally applied its law over East Jerusalem; it would do the same 15 years later by formally annexing the Golan Heights. And, over the past half-century, settlement expansion into the West Bank would deepen Israeli control and make a military withdrawal look increasingly unlikely. (Israel returned the Sinai Peninsula to Egypt as part of a 1979 peace treaty.)
Still, nebulous diplomatic verbiage aside, Eban’s speech would define Israel’s official position on the West Bank for the 50 years to come: The final status of the occupied territory was to be determined in mediated talks. That is, until a few years ago—when Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu started openly pushing a policy of unilateral annexation. A recent bureaucratic maneuver within his new far-right government all but made annexation official by beginning the process of transferring many powers overseeing the West Bank from military to civilian leaders—in contravention of international law.
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REALLY?????????????
Thats news to me. If i recall correctly, on May 22 1967, Nasser closed the straits of Tiran to Israeli shipping which left Israel with little options left other then being choked. Of course this was in addition to MONTHS of threats from Nasser to wipe us out and kick us all into the sea. So Israel took action to defend itself. Of course you already know that.
Nasser kicking Israel into the Sea
REALLY?????????????
Thats news to me. If i recall correctly, on May 22 1967, Nasser closed the straits of Tiran to Israeli shipping which left Israel with little options left other then being choked. Of course this was in addition to MONTHS of threats from Nasser to wipe us out and kick us all into the sea. So Israel took action to defend itself. Of course you already know that.
Nasser kicking Israel into the Sea
Israel submits to the tanks of Egypt, Syria, Jordan and Lebanon
Surely you know those kind of cartoons were all what the arabs wanted and PATHETICALLY failed at achieving much to your dismay. So tell me again who the aggressor was--NO LINKING OR SPAMMING BSpusher
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