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US jamming technology is significantly worse than Russia's, ex-Pentagon officials warn
Business Insider ^ | May 14th, 2024 | Tom Porter

Posted on 05/26/2024 9:15:20 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007

The US has been outclassed by its rivals, such as Russia, in its capacity to remotely take out enemy weapons using jamming technology, according to former US military officials.

Mike Nagata, a retired US Army lieutenant general who led special operations in the Middle East, said that the US is "still falling behind" in its electronic warfare capabilities, reported Defense One.

Electronic warfare units, which use electronic signals to remotely scramble the GPS coordinates used to guide weapons, have played a key role in Russia's war in Ukraine.

"The gap between where the United States should be and where we are, in my judgment, continues to expand not everywhere, but in far too many places," Nagata reportedly said at the SOF Week conference in Tampa, Florida. He called on the US to get more creative to regain its dominance in electronic warfare.

Two retired special operations personnel singled out Russia in remarks to the publication. They said that one reason the Kremlin's technology is significantly better, is because it ignored international laws designed to stop jamming of civilian telecommunications.

It had also invested in electromagnetic innovation for decades while the US had focused its jamming technology on gathering intelligence in areas such as the Middle, according to the publication.

Russia has repeatedly used its electronic warfare units to disable expensive precision-guided weapons that the US has given its ally Ukraine in its battle against Russia.

According to reports, they've proven effective in sending GPS-guided Excalibur artillery rounds off course. They have also been effective against the JDAM US-made missiles used by Ukraine's air force, as well as the rockets fired by US-made Himars missile systems.

Last year, Ukraine's outgoing senior commander, Valery Zaluzhnyi, in an interview with The Economist, said Russia's electronic warfare capability had given it an important edge.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: comint; military; pentagon; russia; sigint; ukraine
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To: MinorityRepublican

Yes, Drones are clearly the way war is going. We need to develop good/sophisticated ones as well as cheap ones that can resist jamming and master swarm attacks.


41 posted on 05/26/2024 11:22:04 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: Svartalfiar
Do their drones have enough range to reach that? And course correct as the carrier moves? And do all of that carrying a significant payload?

Right now? No.

But maybe in 5-10 years.

I hope we're ready. But just look at who's our CIC. And the folks running our Defense Dept.

This isn't the Cold War or the WOT where you had Reagan or Bush in charge.

42 posted on 05/26/2024 11:30:08 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Svartalfiar

I hear ya. I don’t feel comfortable talking about spoofing from an op sec perspective. But true spoofing is far more complex to achieve. One easy cheap spoof solution that has been observed in the Middle East and reported in the open literature is simple gps repeaters (seen by a receiver on the international space station) If a receiver picks up a repeaters signal because locally it is a stronger signal, then the receiver thinks it is at the repeaters location. Without some smarts, this would certainly mess up your nav solution. But of course, if every receiver that gets spoofed by this technique is reporting to location of the repeater, the repeater is easily targeted.


44 posted on 05/26/2024 11:31:35 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Magnum44

When WWIII comes, the first things to go are all the satellites.


45 posted on 05/26/2024 11:32:17 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

High tech from a “a gas station with nukes”?

Perhaps we have been misinformed?


46 posted on 05/26/2024 11:33:53 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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To: Nervous Tick
We can still use our aircraft carriers for the time being. But they'll be no longer the "lead ships".

That would be the motherships with drones.

Once all the drones are destroyed, it's safe to deploy the aircraft carriers in the hostile zone.

47 posted on 05/26/2024 11:34:10 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: dfwgator
"To think that jammin’ was a thing of the past."
Don't we use Hedy Lamarr's frequency hopping? I thought we did, at least with torpedoes.
48 posted on 05/26/2024 11:35:40 AM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: FLT-bird
fancy gold plated weapons systems that ain’t all that when the shooting starts and doubtless other boondoggles.

Shoot, we can't even beat goatherds with rifles after a 20-year campaign.

49 posted on 05/26/2024 11:35:44 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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To: Hiddigeigei

That’s Hedley!


50 posted on 05/26/2024 11:36:12 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

We launched >200 aircraft carriers (of various types) between 1942-1945.

Right now it takes nine years to build one.


51 posted on 05/26/2024 11:38:48 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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To: whitney69
we still can ruin the world for about anyone and in the process for everyone

Well, that's reassuring.

I recently read Annie Jacobson's book on nuclear war. The last time I read detail like that I was 12.

The news hasn't gotten any better in the past 62 years, except I didn't have children and grandchildren in 1962, so now, if anything, it's worse.

52 posted on 05/26/2024 11:44:11 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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To: Jim Noble
Right now it takes nine years to build one.

They run on nuclear power. WWII aircraft carriers were diesel-fueled.

So of course, it takes longer to build a modern aircraft carrier.

53 posted on 05/26/2024 11:44:36 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

I think it is us and our global allies who are learning the most from observing the Russians in their war.

We give some older weapons to the Ukrainians and then see how they perform and what counter measures the Russian develop, we even get to pick and choose what we submit to the field testing.


54 posted on 05/26/2024 11:45:02 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Svartalfiar

How did the Ukrainians find the Moskva?

Well, they had a little help. When it comes time to find the USS Ford, I’m sure Iran will have plenty of help available.


55 posted on 05/26/2024 11:48:25 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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To: MinorityRepublican

My point was, when 3 or 4 are lost in combat, replacements are going to be a problem.


56 posted on 05/26/2024 11:50:06 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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To: Jim Noble
My point was, when 3 or 4 are lost in combat, replacements are going to be a problem.

I doubt that the United States Central Command will deploy our carriers in the Persian Gulf if we're forced to fight Iran. They're too vulnerable.

57 posted on 05/26/2024 11:52:03 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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58 posted on 05/26/2024 12:02:47 PM PDT by Tom Tetroxide
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To: DIRTYSECRET

No, I am asking why you think Russia needs a capability to jam enemy weapons more than we would. Not following you.


59 posted on 05/26/2024 1:42:53 PM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: DesertRhino

Not following you either pal. Looks like we need a 3rd person here to explain.


60 posted on 05/26/2024 4:12:34 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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