Posted on 05/05/2024 9:51:30 AM PDT by logi_cal869
Protests roiling U.S. universities have ignited a fierce debate over where to set the limit between acceptable criticism of Israel and speech that encourages antisemitism and violence.
In France, government authorities are stepping in to draw the line. Courts have ruled that public speech condoning the Oct. 7 attack or legitimizing Hamas as a resistance movement amounts to condoning terrorism—a crime under French law, punishable by up to seven years in prison. French prosecutors are investigating politicians on the far-left, union officials and hundreds of other people for allegedly condoning terrorism and inciting antisemitism since October.
(Excerpt) Read more at wsj.com ...
Meanwhile, across the pond - ironically - pigs fly as French leaders seem to finally awaken from their self-imposed idiocy while here in the U.S. our leaders wring their hands for political expediency and expose foreign influence.
This report astonished me.
Paywall at source; full article reprint/rewrite with different author (microsoft plagiarism???) below at msn:
While U.S. Debates Free Speech, Pro-Hamas Rhetoric in France Is a Crime
“Pro-Hamas Rhetoric in France is a Crime.” The French will have to lock-up every last muslim.
I’ll take Free Speech every time. It’s good to know who the a-holes are.
We don’t debate free speech. We recognize it as the most important thing in the world. Without it a country is a dictatorship. What’s astonishing is that you think this is a good idea. The cure to bad speech is good speech, not less speech. If the government can outlaw that then it can outlaw YOU. Never support it. I WANT people to support Hamas, because it means I’m free to say what I want. And it lets the idiots out themselves.
Well that’s good! Vive les French!
Next step is to kick them all out.
It should be as well. Specifically, HAMAS is a US-recognized terrorist organization. Giving aid and comfort to them, money or otherwise, is a crime. Protesters supporting them, flying their flag, wearing their headbands, shouting ‘Death to America’ while doing so, committing acts of violence, riot, and more, should be arrested and treated as enemy combatants, prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
First they came for the Pro-Hamas speech.......
Mere words is not giving aid and comfort.
“Destroying property is not a peaceful protest. It's against the law.
Vandalism, trespassing, breaking windows, shutting down campuses, forcing the cancellation of classes and graduations - none of this is a peaceful protest.
Threatening people, intimidating people, instilling fear in people is not peaceful protest. It's against the law.
Dissent is essential to democracy. But dissent must never lead to disorder or to denying the rights of others...
There's the right to protest but not the right to cause chaos.
People have the right to get an education, the right to get a degree, the right to walk across the campus safely without fear of being attacked.
But let's be clear about this as well. There should be no place on any campus, no place in America for antisemitism or threats of violence against Jewish students. There is no place for hate speech or violence of any kind, whether it's antisemitism, Islamophobia, or discrimination against Arab Americans or Palestinian Americans.
It's simply wrong. There is no place for racism in America. It's all wrong. It's un-American.”
Words of support, okay, words calling for action, no, anything beyond words, no.
Of course.
Not over the line. Actually kind of the point. The fist half of the bill of rights is a recipe for revolution. They are there so that, if necessary, we can over throw the government. We MUST be able to chant “death to America” in case America needs to die.
"If this be treason, make the most of it!"
-- Somebody famous (May 30, 1765)
"Baaah! Baaah!"
-- Most Americans (nowadays)
What about those janitors at Columbia held hostage? In my opinion they could and should have gone postal and killed every involve protesting terrorist that was holding them hostage. That'd be okay, right?
I bet some FReepers would love for “antisemitism” to be a crime.
Somebody going after your flag is theft, trespassing, and possibly vandalism. Somebody going after your car is vandalism. Spitting on you is assault. The janitors were kidnapped.
Somebody chanting death to America in the street and not doing any of those things is exercising their 1st Amendment rights.
We have the absolute right in America to say the government sucks. As an added bonus at no point in American history has it taken more than 20 minutes to figure a way the government is sucking.
The left DOES and seeks to further erode the USC until it's a hollow shell awaiting a new, Bill Ayers-ghost-written document presented by zero himself (when the time comes).
With the left-dominated media - and the party in power - in the US, the headline is factually correct.
Thus the left showing they are a problem. Don’t become just like them by thinking we should ban ANY speech. The headline is factually STUPID. We’re BETTER than France because we allow free speech.
Kill them not for what they say but because they are terrorists.
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